Yoshi's Island Mafia Gaiden (End - Kamek Won)

Sashe2705 said:
Aegis said:
I am just gonna Vote: Sashe because of his crap reasonings for people potentially being Mafia.
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Also, how did you suddenly forgot about your suspicion of Unknown and decided to vote for me instead?
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I have never suspected Unknown so don't know if you're confused or blind.
 
Aegis said:
You could also say I am not taking this seriously because I don't believe anybody here has made any compelling arguements except for, ironically, UNKNOWN! He makes very compelling posts that sway the masses to bandwagon. All of you who agree with Unknown don't supply a defense of your own and just aim for me. What? Do you have something to hide?
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^Isn't that suspicion?
 
Oh wow, all of you really went to town. I'm going to try to cover everything the best I can and still be concise because I don't think all of you need another long post to read.

NFan - I wasn't entirely satisfied with your answers, since you seem to have a habit of trying to avoid naming names. It would be obvious if you killed KB (although still possible), but I do think that it would be way too early in the game for the mafia to do something like that.

Richard - Your argument is slightly faulty. You took my quote about how the menace would ideally be aggressive and go after his target and follow it up with me randomly voting Sashe to put pressure on him. I did not throw together a long post of seemingly relevant evidence to try to sway everyone with quantity, nor did I go after Sashe. I wanted to see how he would react and I knew it would be a safe tactic since I was the only vote on him.

You use this as your main argument, but also talk about how I want to put NFan and Aegis under the spotlight. You say this (even though I addressed this with Matt), yet you contradict yourself by bringing up how Matt, Billy, and I have been the main talking points of today. I asked NFan a question to address KB's death, and I have not actively tried to raise support to go lynch them. One thing I find suspicious of you is your quoting, you take bits and pieces of my quotes out of context and throw them together in a lengthy post. I feel as though your posts aren't just for proof, but for the purpose of rallying others to vote with you, which doesn't sit well with me. FoS Unknown

VooDu - I said something about the double voter not being mafia but I think VooDu brings up a good point here, the double vote isn't necessarily one of the strongest powers and could possibly be coupled with mafia to give him an edge since there's only one. Also, I know you brought up a few legitimate suspicions (not an FoS, but still) against me that I would like to answer. One of my later posts on page 13 details reason behind every question, going beyond the vague reason of discussion. Asking the questions to cause chaos would seem like an alright plan, except for the fact that I've been involved heavily in discussion thus far into the game. Possible, but I do not feel like this is enough to warrant a vote on me.

There have been long detailed posts on Sashe and Aegis. There is a little suspicion around Aegis, which I mostly felt because he was pretty quiet, but I don't know his play style and that isn't reason at all to go on him. If I remember correctly, Unknown's big argument on him was that Aegis voted NFan after KB did and didn't have a reason why--which he didn't need to have a reason because it was the first day. I feel as though Aegis trying to move his vote from NFan to No Lynch quickly before the day ended would have made him look more guilty instead of less. I'm not clearing him, but I feel there isn't a strong argument there. I don't have an opinion on Sashe just yet.

I would like to hear Prince's response to my rebuttal.
 
MattC said:
Sashe2705 said:
So, I don't think you should have any problems answering the 3rd and the 4th question.
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Why am I answering the third and the fourth question after someone has already been killed off?
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Sashe never answered this and has flip-flopped a lot on who he thinks is guilty. Granted it's not enough for me to actually vote for him.

also this:

Sashe2705 said:
The Shattered Legacy said:
This is the second time you've wagoned... Hmm. I'll keep an eye on you.

FoS Sashe
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Do you really think that wagoning is suspicious if you have good reasons for voting a person?
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"A good reason which I am going to backpedal entirely down the page."
 
(Ok for the record the discussion seems to happen while I'm asleep or that I tend to be busy which is why I may seem quiet :p)

Oh man so much to read... and man am I getting confused. X__x

But I'll try to analyze things for myself...

Matt said:
8. H-J went after NFan for not answered question 4. Kinetic also didn't answer question 4 but no one went after him.
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(Taking one of Matt's points into consideration)
@H-J: Why question NFan for not answering that question at the time? Why not go after Kinetic for not answering it, or Aegis/Matt/GMan for not answering them at all?

GMan said:
I think that it is a little suspicious, but not nearly enough for me to make any accusations.
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@GMan: If you think this situation is suspicious, then who do you think caused this situation and why?

Kinectic said:
Quote from: Spongyoshi on July 27, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
If i was the mafia,i would kill:
- Slacker because you give some goods ideas

Quote from: Billy12510 on July 27, 2014, 07:52:58 PM
4. Someone with a lot of experience, like myself or you Slacker.

Quote from: NintendoFan on July 27, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
4. I don't want to answer that. [Would eventually say Slacker and H-J]
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@Prince: Why did you only quote these 3 responses to question 4 in your post? I understand why you quoted NFan's response, but what was the purpose of quoting Billy & Spong's response? (I'm just asking for clarification here :p)

I'm still a bit suspicious of Spong as I said here, and after when he said he was feeling "forced" to answer the questions makes me sense that he has something to hide. =P

Spong said:
And how is suspecting Sashe is called "OMGUS" ??? (dunno this word before that btw)
I just said i was a bit suspecting him because of asking this question.
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OMGUS = Oh my god you suck/Oh my god you're scum. (Usually the former though lol)
Basically an example is voting someone cause they voted you or suspecting someone back; I guess you could say it's a result of being over-defensive and paranoid. :p

Spong said:
I also have many suspects because i don't have at all a clear idea of the mafia.
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Mind sharing your list of suspects, then?

I'm still unsure about Aegis after reading Prince and Billy's post... X__x
...But for some reason I'm leaning a bit more towards his innocence. So I'll retract the FoS on Aegis.

BTW, I was thinking about this vote power thing, in the story, the Grim Leecher "flew away" from KB's bag, but does this mean it went to someone else and now someone else can't hammer? Or is it out of play permanently?

If it does go to someone else, and it does go to the doublevoter (where I think it only doubles when a hammer vote occurs), then I assume their voting power would be nullified?

And speaking of votes, I suppose I can do a vote tally. :p

(Unofficial) Vote Tally (as of now)
- Aegis: 1 (Prince Richard-o)
- Sashe: 1 (Aegis)
- No Vote: 10 (Everyone else :p)

*Note that Sashe retracted his vote on Aegis.
 
VooDu said:
For not answering question 4, I'd like to see a real reason from you, not just sticking on to Aegis's reason as a safety net. You also answered the question with "Heh. Good question. Maybe I leave it to others to say" which sounds very suspicious and relates to what Matt said to Slacker about asking the questions then waiting to see other peoples answers to fit into the group. Why did you leave it to others to say?
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I suppose I did want to see others to go for it while I avoided that question altogether. And even to fit into the group. If I were Mafia I would certainly want to get rid of the most experienced players because it lessens the chances of town succeeding in capturing the mafia.
I wouldn't necessarily have targeted Kingboo after Day 1. I would've just looked passed it & targeted someone completely unrelated to it all to give as little bit as suspicion & info as possible. Say, Gman, who has been the least helpful here. Which explains my incrimination toward him.

Billy12510 said:
Why didn't we go after you harder for not answering that question?
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Why didn't you guys is a good question. Perhaps my LAVISH walls of texts took attention away from that. Let's say it WAS my intention to do that. And I was waiting for someone to put me on the spotlight. Maybe I'm no better than the Mafia. There's still no good definite proof of ME being the one. Maybe I've been doing some purposeful trickery on my end so to make it out that I AM THE BAD GUY. And to generate tension among the lot of us. I feel that it's proving very effective.

Billy12510 said:
why vote for Aegis? Wouldn't putting the blame on him be EXACTLY what the Mafia wants? Or perhaps more to the point I'm getting at... what YOU want? The more I read into Aegis's statements... I'm actually more convinced of his innocence then anything else.
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.................

This...

Uggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................. F***...

I can't bare this anymore of me being pointed out as a possible suspect by voting someone who just wishes to look past there being a killer here & wanting to relax... Ugh...

If that's all he really wants...then what am I doing...? . . .

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*is becoming pressured & getting on edge* F*** you, Slacker... I need some time to think on what you said...

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In the meantime...... I'm withdrawing my vote on Aegis... I...I...I just dunno...
 
Haha take your time.

@Timmy - Is this what you were looking for?
Spongyoshi said:
Well,don't wanna suspect too much others but... I have multiples ideas about it:
Prince Richard-o :put the fault on another person
Billy12510 :plays cool & calm,mostly follow others opinions
Aegis & NintendoFan :Because of others opinions
Sashe2705 :For asking this question  :p

Please,don't get mad,i was forced  :'( Seriously,im not STRONGLY suspecting anyone.  ;)
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This might be a little outdated, couldn't tell if you were asking for a new list.

@VooDu - What did you find on Sashe that made you understand his play? I went to look back on his last mafia but I'm having trouble finding the game.
 
Hmhmhmhmhm...

Here's a question for you lot: Do you think my attempt to kill Gman was an act of losing control or do you think I used that entire situation as a means to distract everyone on my KILL on Kingboo?

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Also, I'm choosing to not explain to Slacker.


I will, however, answer Timmy. I quoted the previous two to just show how others would get rid of an experienced player like Slacker & he wasn't killed. Many seemed to have chose him... But Kingboo died instead... Huh...
 
NintendoFan said:
Gman, speak up. Seriously, you practically have said nothing all game.

NintendoFan said:
Also, I really don't like how Gman barely spoke at all. I know he's having some trouble being active, but seriously...
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I have been online a lot the past few days, I just haven't had much to post lately that would actually move the game forward. Also, most of the conversations seem to be going on whenever I'm NOT home. And to add onto that, I'm not even very suspicious of the majority of us. Those are the main reasons for my lack of posting.

But now for something I meant to post earlier today but never got the chance.

Something about Unknown's behavior doesn't sit well with me. He seems to randomly "go crazy" and start screaming or hurting someone. "Going crazy from being stuck in a pit" is what he says the reason for this is, but it had not even been a DAY yet when he attacked me. I don't think people go crazy that fast in a pit with 12 other people.
If he was isolated, it might have made more sense. So, that leads me to believe that Unknown could  have been acting the whole time for some malicious purpose. FoS: Unknown till I am convinced that he isn't using the "going crazy" excuse for covering up something evil.




 
Slacker said:
@VooDu - What did you find on Sashe that made you understand his play? I went to look back on his last mafia but I'm having trouble finding the game.
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I looked at this http://mariopartylegacy.com/forum/index.php?topic=13900.0
Sashe has his reasonings for following the bandwagon, because here he was doing his own thing and it led to him being lynched Day 2 (I was just skimming over stuff but that's what I got from it).

Slacker said:
VooDu - One of my later posts on page 13 details reason behind every question, going beyond the vague reason of discussion. Asking the questions to cause chaos would seem like an alright plan, except for the fact that I've been involved heavily in discussion thus far into the game. Possible, but I do not feel like this is enough to warrant a vote on me.
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I'm still not to convinced. Your reasons are alright, but it still feels odd to me. Like TSL pointed out, I'd expect the mafia to be pretty vocal early on to gather the trust of the town (perhaps the questions could've been exactly that?). Yeah, this info isn't enough to warrant a vote on you, but it's still something suspicious to consider.

@Gman Whilst you're here, what do you think of the situation right now and everything that's happened today.
 
Gmanextreme9 said:
NintendoFan said:
Gman, speak up. Seriously, you practically have said nothing all game.

NintendoFan said:
Also, I really don't like how Gman barely spoke at all. I know he's having some trouble being active, but seriously...
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I have been online a lot the past few days, I just haven't had much to post lately that would actually move the game forward. Also, most of the conversations seem to be going on whenever I'm NOT home. And to add onto that, I'm not even very suspicious of the majority of us. Those are the main reasons for my lack of posting.

But now for something I meant to post earlier today but never got the chance.

Something about Unknown's behavior doesn't sit well with me. He seems to randomly "go crazy" and start screaming or hurting someone. "Going crazy from being stuck in a pit" is what he says the reason for this is, but it had not even been a DAY yet when he attacked me. I don't think people go crazy that fast in a pit with 12 other people.
If he was isolated, it might have made more sense. So, that leads me to believe that Unknown could  have been acting the whole time for some malicious purpose. FoS: Unknown till I am convinced that he isn't using the "going crazy" excuse for covering up something evil.
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Unknown's "going crazy" is just a persona I'm pretty sure... you could look at the last Yoshi's Island Mafia for proof of that.
 
"Going crazy persona".

Someone has the right idea.

I am losing my marbles over this whole mess.

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What about everyones take thus far?

Who would you vote at this time?

Is there just not sufficent evidence to but a hard vote on anyone?

What exactly are we all wanting/waiting for?

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Don't tell me we're gunna do a "No Lynch" after all this mess.
 
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