Yoshi's Island Mafia Gaiden (End - Kamek Won)

Everyone is so undecided.

It seems like the only course of action if no one is willing to do anything.

*sighs* Whoever this bad guy is is definitely doing their part in hiding...

Do we have to wait for another of us to get killed before...we get closer...?

...Jesus... I'm sick of this. Vote: No Lynch



 
My take this far? It's really hard to say who's mafia. With so many people it's hard to say who it could be. It also doesn't help when numerous people aren't around often enough.

At this time, I would either vote you or Slacker. But there really isn't enough evidence to put a hard vote on anyone.

I'm just waiting for more concise evidence to put a vote on someone.

Prince, why did you retract your vote from Aegis so easily after your wagon fell apart. Even with all your evidence, I would've expected more persuasion on your part to get people back on your side instead of forfeiting and letting everyone go suspicious of you.
 
Honestly, I don't understand why Sashe or NF haven't been lynched yet. NF for his raging behavior in Day 1 and Sashe asking ridiculous, detailed questions whilst being a bandwagoner and seemingly nosy player. My vote still stands with him.
 
Aegis said:
Honestly, I don't understand why Sashe or NF haven't been lynched yet. NF for his raging behavior in Day 1 and Sashe asking ridiculous, detailed questions whilst being a bandwagoner and seemingly nosy player. My vote still stands with him.

I believe you have to bold your votes for it to get through to Yoshiman222, but you can just edit your post...

As for the way I was acting on Day 1, I was angry that people were voting me with no evidence against me whatsoever.
 
I still don't think NFan is mafia. People were voting him for not answering a question (which numerous others hadn't answered) and he was the only one getting grilled about it, he was being insulted, people were random voting him and there was no evidence against him. He had all the right to go rage about that, especially since it is one of his first mafias to.

NintendoFan said:
Aegis said:
Honestly, I don't understand why Sashe or NF haven't been lynched yet. NF for his raging behavior in Day 1 and Sashe asking ridiculous, detailed questions whilst being a bandwagoner and seemingly nosy player. My vote still stands with him.

I believe you have to bold your votes for it to get through to Yoshiman222, but you can just edit your post...

As for the way I was acting on Day 1, I was angry that people were voting me with no evidence against me whatsoever.
Aegis has already cast his vote, he was just reiterating it.
 
Prince Richard-o ? said:
Also, I'm choosing to not explain to Slacker.


I will, however, answer Timmy. I quoted the previous two to just show how others would get rid of an experienced player like Slacker & he wasn't killed. Many seemed to have chose him... But Kingboo died instead... Huh...
Hmm, well then.

It's not that you didn't explain anything to me. It's that you fail to acknowledge your suspicious behavior and then follow up with another statement insinuating that I'm mafia because I did not die the previous night phase. By that logic, eleven other people are pretty guilty too. Using the fact that my name came up often is hardly legitimate grounds for your actions; since I've hosted several games on this board, it isn't unlikely that my name would come up. You're saying that because I survived one night phase, I look guilty although mentioning neither HJ nor Billy; this would be tunneling your focus on me to make me alone look guilty to everyone else. I thought you would have at least considered that the menace may be using this as a tactic to throw guilt on me/HJ/Billy due to your large analytical posts.

Since the topic came up, a No Lynch would play it safe for the town, but I'd feel pretty safe voting for someone who has constantly been throwing up shaky reasoning against other people--with no one flipping this on you besides me (and a few others), I highly doubt you're the target of the menace.

I still want to give you a fair chance to respond. However, unless you address what I said in my previous post, I will be placing a vote on you. Just trying to get some answers here.
 
So, you're voting No Lynch. However, there's one person who I suspect and that's Unknown. Maybe after all, VooDu's theory is right, maybe you're "brainwashing" us to vote for Aegis because he may be the person with Baby Mario. Also...

Prince Richard-o ? said:
You're lame reasoning for just FoS'ing Sashe due to bandwagoning despite giving a seemingly good reason is...garbage...in my eyes...

...FoS on H-J. Try to give me a good reason why I shouldn't put suspicion on you.

Instead of blaming me, you suddenly suspect H-J for giving a lame reason for suspecting me. It may be lame, but isn't it strange that you blamed H-J, instead of me, the only person who voted for Aegis except for you. Can you explain, Unknown?
 
Timmy said:
Matt said:
8. H-J went after NFan for not answered question 4. Kinetic also didn't answer question 4 but no one went after him.
(Taking one of Matt's points into consideration)
@H-J: Why question NFan for not answering that question at the time? Why not go after Kinetic for not answering it, or Aegis/Matt/GMan for not answering them at all?

The wording of the response drew my attention to Nintendofan. I honestly wasn't paying attention to Richard because I don't even recall his answers. Aegis/Matt just said 'why answer/I'm not obliged to answer' which has a different tone to 'I'm not comfortable to answer'. GMan was inactive lol

Richard's posts get distracting at times even if key words are flagged. I don't know if it's enough to make me feel like it's for a non-town goal.

idk about the whole 'no lynch just coz, we're not getting anywhere so let's just vote the 'safe' option' but ehh. I don't want the game to end on Day 10. That's really drawn out.

Questions since no-one is answering them:

Current take (summary):
VooDu - making some calm observations and drawing conclusions from them, don't see anything overtly suspicious here.
Spong - Appropriate level of engagement even if this is one of his first times/the language difficulties. Nothing particularly striking.
Sashe - prior votes have him appear to rephrase existing arguments given by others and passes them off as sufficient for a vote. ?Wagoning. Very capable of making his own calls, but could do with doing that more.
Me - variable levels of focus, response depth and analysis (IRL distractions), reserved play style, seems interested in ridiculing *certain* players. ?Suspicious play based on prior meta.
Slacker - takes the lead in group discussion and quite collected and detailed in responses. I feel that perhaps his answers are slightly 'prepared', but not a big enough draw card at this stage. I might need to re-read and push on certain points.
NintendoFan - some aura of assuming too much ('you can just edit your post'), other times feels like he follows the rest, word choice is awkward but this is more likely due to game inexperience as opposed to a mafia slip-up. Hasn't handled defending himself as well as others, again ?inexperience.
Billy - analytical, presses on ambiguities and suspicious statements/inferences. No real read right now.
Matt - low lying, has avoided questions, analytical. Hopefully his distanced analysis does not equate to grandmastering a plan.
KB - dead. Confused about his motives before death.
Aegis - not really suspicious. Is probably right in saying that some of us need to chill the f*** out. Insistent on his votes.
Timmy - not as active as usual. Has different insights compared with others. Speak up more.
Gman - while comparatively inactive, is reading. Conclusions seem rather brief but unlike a typical inactive still wants to be involved (reluctantly).
Richard - very involved. Posts waver between distraction and theory leading. Polarized in decisions, yet at the same time indecisive.

Who would I vote? ...I don't like voting until I can elevate a FoS into something worthy of a vote.

Of course there's insufficient evidence. There are only two ways forward - vote a 'safe' choice (still with a risk of giving the game to mafia) or NL until we're denied that choice.

I am waiting for myself to actually read everyone's posts and perform proper analysis. And for others (and myself) to be less distant in the game.



wrt to Slacker's post: hmm. That in part leads to my conclusion that Richard is making indecisive yet polarized posts. If he is rallying people (which he did in Day 1), why is he choosing No Lynch on multiple occasions (ignoring the fact he also voted Aegis which is a strange read)? Mafia don't gain anything from voting NL, that simply delays their chance to win.
Also it's very easy to over-rely on snippets of posts as decisive evidence - I've done that myself a few times. Think about how Richard accused me with a FoS over my FoSing Sashe (not even voting, which Slacker did D1) because I was worried about wagoning. It's quite intriguing to put a lot of weight on something only 'seemingly' good or lame.

And oh boy tunneling. I'm sorry, but *someone* needs to find another clogged pipe to clean out. :p

For the record Slacker, if Richard flips (town) doublevoter, does that really impact town as much as some people might think? There's only one mafia anyway and they have to blend in in order to achieve their goals.

FoS on Sashe retracted
 
The Shattered Legacy said:
seems interested in ridiculing *certain* players.
I've noticed. lol

--

Also, I give up for this day.

I'm gunna be out in the common area. So, YOU GUYS need to decide...otherwise, I'm voting for Sashe!

Takes away No Lynch. Vote: Sashe

IF I DIE, AEGIS, KNOW THAT I LOVE YOU!
 
Sashe2705 said:
So, you're voting No Lynch. However, there's one person who I suspect and that's Unknown. Maybe after all, VooDu's theory is right, maybe you're "brainwashing" us to vote for Aegis because he may be the person with Baby Mario. Also...

Prince Richard-o ? said:
You're lame reasoning for just FoS'ing Sashe due to bandwagoning despite giving a seemingly good reason is...garbage...in my eyes...

...FoS on H-J. Try to give me a good reason why I shouldn't put suspicion on you.

Instead of blaming me, you suddenly suspect H-J for giving a lame reason for suspecting me. It may be lame, but isn't it strange that you blamed H-J, instead of me, the only person who voted for Aegis except for you. Can you explain, Unknown?


^Unknown, I still want an explanation from you.
 
Looking back on it (this was just me skimming so I might've missed it) but Prince never bought up any suspicions of his own towards Sashe. Very odd that out of everyone he went with voting Sashe. He completely ditched his case against Aegis for someone he has no evidence against. He did it in an instant which is even stranger, plus he said he'd keep his vote on Aegis until he explains and he never did but he still removed his vote. Is this perhaps because he knows no one is voting for Aegis today so he'll try and bring it up tomorrow?

Again, Prince, why did you so easily throw away your strong argument against Aegis and instead vote for someone who has barely any evidence against them?
 
VooDu said:
...Prince never bought up any suspicions of his own towards Sashe. Very odd that out of everyone he went with voting Sashe.
Not to mention Sashe was voting with him on Aegis. Turning on the second voter for your vote nomination is...

I'll lay an FoS on Richard in an attempt to force answers out. By the sounds of it though he wants out or is willingly wanting to die. Either way, it's not helping.



Given that roles might exist that we are unaware of, does ANYONE have any information that they want to share that hasn't come to light from conversation? (i.e. anything from 'anonymous' PMs - don't quote the PMs though, I don't want you dead too by Yoshiman)
 
I honestly got a very ambigious PM that was a story snippet rather than role PM, so I just ignored it. The mod needs to do a better job on that regard IMO.
 
The Shattered Legacy said:
Given that roles might exist that we are unaware of, does ANYONE have any information that they want to share that hasn't come to light from conversation? (i.e. anything from 'anonymous' PMs - don't quote the PMs though, I don't want you dead too by Yoshiman)
I have not received anything.

I'll keep my FoS on Richard, but I'm not exactly sure what to do based on his most recent post.

Aegis said:
I honestly got a very ambigious PM that was a story snippet rather than role PM, so I just ignored it. The mod needs to do a better job on that regard IMO.
Did anyone else get a PM like this? Maybe it's possible to reveal something if we put a few of them together?
 
The Shattered Legacy said:
Given that roles might exist that we are unaware of, does ANYONE have any information that they want to share that hasn't come to light from conversation? (i.e. anything from 'anonymous' PMs - don't quote the PMs though, I don't want you dead too by Yoshiman)

I received a PM. But before I say anything about it, can I word what was in it in my own words or is that just basically quoting it? I honestly don't know and don't want to be mod-killed....
 
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