Should Penguins be playable?

Do you think Penguins should be playable in the Mario spin-offs?

  • Yes, I love them!!

    Votes: 6 30.0%

  • Only once or twice

    Votes: 3 15.0%

  • I'm not bothered

    Votes: 9 45.0%

  • No, that's a terrible idea!

    Votes: 1 5.0%

  • Uh... What penguins?

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Total voters
    20
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Aegis said:
All we know about the Mario brothers is that they fell into their toilets, landed into the Mushroom Kingdom, saved the Princess from an evil Koopa named Bowser, and that's pretty much it. And all of the other supporting characters that Mario encounters are just there. No origin stories, no unique personalities, not a great way to argue over which "characters are better" because none of them truly shine as groundbreaking characters.
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Yea well you got me there, but still using generic enemies and characters like Koopas and Penguins as playable characters is dumb. At least we have some knowledge of who the others are like, Peach is sweet and feminin, Daisy loves excitement and sports, Wario is wicked and fat, then we have Koopa and others that give no hint on what they are like. They cheer when others cheer and are sad when others are sad. Like what is Blooper like? Is he a baddie like Wario? is it even male? So at least the others bring something and we know who they are and what they act like. They have some sliver of personality to bring.
 
I agree that most of the characters are a bit random, but Super Mario Galaxy really made Rosalina shine. We know her story, personality, what she does and we've even seen where she lives. We know more about Rosalina than Daisy/Waluigi and that's why Rosalina deserves permanent place. She is also breathtakingly beautiful and is more popular than most characters, yet Nintendo still continues to reject her in games outside Mario Kart/ Mario Galaxy. :(

I'd even be willing to let Funky Kong stay in Mario Kart, as long as Rosalina is playable. :p
 
See, Rosalina is probably the only character with any legitimate background, but still, she's just a sorceress who really doesn't do anything noteworthy other than help Mario form the walkway to Bowser's Reactor. :p She's basically just there as a guide for Mario, which can easily be done with characters like Toadsworth. Sure, she's got that whole Storybook, but come on, did anybody give a s*** about that? It didn't affect your gameplay at all nor did it have anything to do with the game lol.
 
Aegis said:
See, Rosalina is probably the only character with any legitimate background, but still, she's just a sorceress who really doesn't do anything noteworthy other than help Mario form the walkway to Bowser's Reactor. :p She's basically just there as a guide for Mario, which can easily be done with characters like Toadsworth. Sure, she's got that whole Storybook, but come on, did anybody give a s*** about that? It didn't affect your gameplay at all nor did it have anything to do with the game lol.
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It gave her story and you said a story is important for a character. So now it's a bad thing? lol

 
I want Toadette back, I don't care who else gets in, as long as the Main Cast and her stay. Toadette's pretty much useless now though since the whole "Partners" thing was trashed. It's a damn shame, they were actually starting to give her some character. Like what she likes, her hobbies, her odd good chemistry with Bad Guys...
 
The story had nothing to do with the game and it only made her personality even more mysterious. How did she get her power? Where is she from? It only told her tale about her relationship with the Lumas. That's basically it. But, with a good game like Final Fantasy, characters are given such great backgrounds and noticeable personality traits. Rosalina is sort of cold, calm, and collected, exactly like Peach. Squall Leonhart and Cloud Strife both have cold personalities, but the difference with them is that Cloud actually has more of a rebellious side to him while Squall has the more robotic and logical side to him. All the Mario characters just have the bland one sided personality to them (Wario is evil because..........well, Mario needs an evil clone, right?) Now do you understand me?
 
Ehh, I think they are all different enough even if they don't have a backstory or anything. They all certainly act different, lets use the three princesses (even if Rose isn't a real princess), Peach is a ruler and has great knowledge, she is very feminin and acts like a princess would (to some extent) she is cute and relatable, Daisy on the other hand is adventurous and sporty, she is not your stereotypical princess since she loves sports and getting dirty, she is a tomboy, Rosalina is calm and collected, she has great magical abilities and never lets anything get to her, she may have a soft voice but she is hard as nails thus showing she is strong and independent.

At least with these three lovely ladies we know where they came from and that they are all leaders of some kind, Peach came from the Mushroom Kigdome, Daisy from Sarasland, and Rosalina from space and she lived on a "blue planet". Mario and Luigi came from brooklyn or something along with Pauline who stayed in the Mushroom Kingdom for some reason. 

I don't know if it's just you, but I can see the great differences with each character. Unless they are one of the generic characters like Koopa or Shy-Guy who have no personality.
 
See, you're only using the Princesses as examples. Give me something more to work with.
 
Aegis said:
See, you're only using the Princesses as examples. Give me something more to work with.
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Mario is heroic, brave, loves to have fun, and is dedicated to protect the Princess, Luigi is cowardly, many things scare him now, he can be brave when he needs to, but not before he shits his pants, I liked old Luigi just because he was not the coward, even if he was just the same Mario pallet swap till Mario Golf GC, Wario is wicked and stupid, but since his Wario Ware games started to come out it showed a different side of Wario, but he is still his greedy self.

Waluigi is pretty much a tall and skinny Wario,but unlike Wario who has is own series where his personality is more developed Waluigi's isn't. yea Waluigi is one with no real personality to make him stick out of the pack, though in MP8 it seemed like Nintendo wanted him kinda poetic or something with him pulling the rose out of his noes. 

Birdo is a tranny and thinks she looks good so she acts sassy and sexy (eww), Yoshi is a fun loving dinosaur, he loves to eat and is very protective of his homeland and of Baby Mario, Toadette is a happy and upbeat girl, she loves to be around the others, but can become very childish at times, that good?
 
Mario and Luigi are basically the same people except Luigi is more of a coward, and even then he has many courageous endeavors. Waluigi has no personality. Wario is now being a Mario copycat who only farts to get his way. Birdo isn't a tranny in America, and has absolutely no storyline besides SMB2 USA which isn't even canon to Japan. Yoshi is a fun dinosaur.........and hails from Yoshi's Island. Okay. Whoo. Big explanation for these guys. Funny how you didn't mention Bowser, the Toads, enemies, etc. Guess that proves my point.
 
No. It does prove my point. Because you're holding back on the characters you guys are arguing over (Toads, Koopa Troop). Still doesn't make me convinced.
 
Aegis said:
No. It does prove my point. Because you're holding back on the characters you guys are arguing over (Toads, Koopa Troop). Still doesn't make me convinced.
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Cuz Toads, Koopas, and other generic enemies have no personality, which is why I hate it when they become playable characters over characters that have real personality. Like Why use Koopa when you could have Toadette? She has a personality while Koopa doesn't.
 
I'll argue for Bowser because he always seems to be neglected. That's why he's on my signature! :p

Bowser tries to appear tough and powerful but inside he's just as soft as Toadette. He cares for his children (when he's not in a bad mood :p) and has done a good job raising them. All he wants is a bit of love from Peach which isn't bad at all. Despite giving off the impression of being evil, I always route for Bowser because he's just one big loveable Koopa. His softer side really showed in Super Mario Sunshine.

Shy Guy also has his own personality. All he wants is to have a little bit of popularity and get involved in some of the activities but he is too shy, hence the name. He acts stupid and is such an adorable character. He has a sense of mystery because we don't know what's under his mask, leaving us guessing with endless possibilities.

Koopa on the other hand, I admit, he has almost no personality. :-X
 
I'm pretty sure Toad has more of a personality than Toadette. XP All I see from Toadette is being happy happy all the time, the only thing that distinguishes her from Toad, is pretty much she is very childish/stubborn at times.

Toad is usually very joyful, informative (nicknamed Advisor on MP9), adventurous (or "brave" mainly being shown in spinoffs), though shy at times (very scared of Bowser), etc. Let's not forget the numerous connections he has with the other characters. I don't know if you guys haven't noticed, but Koopa Troopa acts very similar to Toad (being informative, adventurous, but very nervous and scared of people like Bowser), probably why they are paired together. I don't think Mario character's stories/personalities are very well developed at all compared to other series' (like Aegis said), but it's true, some characters are more developed than others imo. =P

These are just my thoughts, not trying to trash anyone's opinion or anything lol
 
SpiderStaryu said:
I'm pretty sure Toad has more of a personality than Toadette. XP All I see from Toadette is being happy happy all the time, the only thing that distinguishes her from Toad, is pretty much she is very childish/stubborn at times.

Toad is usually very joyful, informative (nicknamed Advisor on MP9), adventurous (or "brave" mainly being shown in spinoffs), though shy at times (very scared of Bowser), etc. Let's not forget the numerous connections he has with the other characters. I don't know if you guys haven't noticed, but Koopa Troopa acts very similar to Toad (being informative, adventurous, but very nervous and scared of people like Bowser), probably why they are paired together. I don't think Mario character's stories/personalities are very well developed at all compared to other series' (like Aegis said), but it's true, some characters are more developed than others imo. =P

These are just my thoughts, not trying to trash anyone's opinion or anything lol
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Obviously Toad has more personality than Toadette. He's been around longer!
Personally, I'd like to see a game starring them. Toad and Toadette. Or maybe that's just me?
 
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