Mafia Madness (Endgame)

Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
Well, at least someone has to be Mafia and we've only got a 40% chance anyway at the most. I have a copy of that anon message and it is a lie; I am not one of the "evil" intruders.
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If this is so, then perhaps it falls on DJ/Spirit to out whoever he thinks sent the anon message?

I find it... Peculiar that two people would receive a message only intended for one, unless the role that sends these messages has a chance of accidentally leaking to others...

In the meanwhile the other issue that arises is why Eddy changed vote to me originally for today... Can LFan or DJ make any comment on that?
 
Even if this could cost me my life, the anon message I received basically said that if I targeted the same person ''again'' I would be killed on the next night. Which in my opinion would explain why Eddy changed his vote. So that's why I'm targetting LFan for now. Also, the fact that LFan is voting Noctus without any big evidence is just too awkward. I did say I had little Fos on Noctus, but still I don't feel there's enough proof to vote him. So my vote still stands.
 
DJ Dylan Wow'Brien said:
Even if this could cost me my life, the anon message I received basically said that if I targeted the same person ''again'' I would be killed on the next night. Which in my opinion would explain why Eddy changed his vote. So that's why I'm targetting LFan for now. Also, the fact that LFan is voting Noctus without any big evidence is just too awkward. I did say I had little Fos on Noctus, but still I don't feel there's enough proof to vote him. So my vote still stands.
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Now the question arises, how did Eddy suspect that LFan was mafia? :/ if we discount the possibility that Eddy was choosing at random (which is still most likely) then... Um... Eddy/DJ have a day role? O.O

Only other possibility that could explain the anon message is that LFan is vig, but that's mighty hard to prove.
 
VooDu said:
DJ's anon message sounds like it was sent from LFan, don't vote for the same person AGAIN and LFan was the only one that Eddy voted for that day. This definitely sounds like LFan could be mafia.
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That's not the case! Slacker sent me a PM saying specifically I received it; besides, I'm not the kind of person who would even say something like that! I was set up! The reasons I voted for Eddy was because (A.) Revenge and B.) If he wanted me out like that, knowing I'm not a mob member, then he must've been one of the mafia, which we want to kill. This would make even more sense if TSL can honestly say he's a fellow Townie.
 
Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
VooDu said:
DJ's anon message sounds like it was sent from LFan, don't vote for the same person AGAIN and LFan was the only one that Eddy voted for that day. This definitely sounds like LFan could be mafia.
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That's not the case! Slacker sent me a PM saying specifically I received it; besides, I'm not the kind of person who would even say something like that! I was set up! The reasons I voted for Eddy was because (A.) Revenge and B.) If he wanted me out like that, knowing I'm not a mob member, then he must've been one of the mafia, which we want to kill. This would make even more sense if TSL can honestly say he's a fellow Townie.
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On Subject of topic B) - it could be that he was just being stupid. :p We all know he was.
Subject A) just seems more Mafia-like too.

...just saying. :p
2PMs also sound very interesting... and exactly the same? I'm wondering if you guy both could word yours out for everyone? Specific details and such, just because I'm curious if they really are the same or if someone's just making something up here...
LFan - you go first with the little details since you said you got a message 2nd.
 
Yoshiman222 said:
Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
VooDu said:
DJ's anon message sounds like it was sent from LFan, don't vote for the same person AGAIN and LFan was the only one that Eddy voted for that day. This definitely sounds like LFan could be mafia.
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That's not the case! Slacker sent me a PM saying specifically I received it; besides, I'm not the kind of person who would even say something like that! I was set up! The reasons I voted for Eddy was because (A.) Revenge and B.) If he wanted me out like that, knowing I'm not a mob member, then he must've been one of the mafia, which we want to kill. This would make even more sense if TSL can honestly say he's a fellow Townie.
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On Subject of topic B) - it could be that he was just being stupid. :p We all know he was.
Subject A) just seems more Mafia-like too.

...just saying. :p
2PMs also sound very interesting... and exactly the same? I'm wondering if you guy both could word yours out for everyone? Specific details and such, just because I'm curious if they really are the same or if someone's just making something up here...
LFan - you go first with the little details since you said you got a message 2nd.
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The one I had said "luigi is evil," which (Take one look at my username/Profile Picture) I'd never in my life claim-Boom-case cleared. Now let's nab the real Mafia! We only have 24 hours left!
 
Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
Yoshiman222 said:
Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
VooDu said:
DJ's anon message sounds like it was sent from LFan, don't vote for the same person AGAIN and LFan was the only one that Eddy voted for that day. This definitely sounds like LFan could be mafia.
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That's not the case! Slacker sent me a PM saying specifically I received it; besides, I'm not the kind of person who would even say something like that! I was set up! The reasons I voted for Eddy was because (A.) Revenge and B.) If he wanted me out like that, knowing I'm not a mob member, then he must've been one of the mafia, which we want to kill. This would make even more sense if TSL can honestly say he's a fellow Townie.
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On Subject of topic B) - it could be that he was just being stupid. :p We all know he was.
Subject A) just seems more Mafia-like too.

...just saying. :p
2PMs also sound very interesting... and exactly the same? I'm wondering if you guy both could word yours out for everyone? Specific details and such, just because I'm curious if they really are the same or if someone's just making something up here...
LFan - you go first with the little details since you said you got a message 2nd.
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The one I had said "luigi is evil," which (Take one look at my username/Profile Picture) I'd never in my life claim-Boom-case cleared. Now let's nab the real Mafia! We only have 24 hours left!
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Oookay, umm... really short explanation that doesn't explain anything to me.
Can you go more into detail about it? Plus, it really feels like you're just trying to rush a kill here...
 
DJ Dylan Wow'Brien said:
Even if this could cost me my life, the anon message I received basically said that if I targeted the same person ''again'' I would be killed on the next night.
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Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
The one I had said "luigi is evil," which (Take one look at my username/Profile Picture) I'd never in my life claim-Boom-case cleared. Now let's nab the real Mafia! We only have 24 hours left!
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Something doesn't add up here; and for those who are green, the cheese seems to give them away a lot more than they'd like...

Strong FoS LFan
 
I feel like we now have enough evidence to say, Vote: LFan. Eddy/DJ's anon message could really only be from LFan and it mentions that he'll die in the next night phase, pretty much meaning that LFan has power of killing someone in the night meaning he's mafia. Also, voting Noctus because he's the most reasonable GUESS really ticked me, being it a guess and that he has no proof at all against Noctus.
 
Vote: Spirit. I don't have any killing abilities and I don't have any Night powers! I am just Luigidenne, Bleeder of the Town and if you guys can't see that, I'll take myself down!
Yoshiman222 said:
Oookay, umm... really short explanation that doesn't explain anything to me.
Can you go more into detail about it? Plus, it really feels like you're just trying to rush a kill here...
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I don't really know what else to say; that's all that was in there. What I meant by starting the search, is that we have to refocus ourselves, search for what really makes sense, not letting you be tricked a by such a heartless ruse, find the true villains in this.
 
Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
Vote: Spirit. I don't have any killing abilities and I don't have any Night powers! I am just Luigidenne, Bleeder of the Town and if you guys can't see that, I'll take myself down!
Yoshiman222 said:
Oookay, umm... really short explanation that doesn't explain anything to me.
Can you go more into detail about it? Plus, it really feels like you're just trying to rush a kill here...
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I don't really know what else to say; that's all that was in there. What I meant by starting the search, is that we have to refocus ourselves, search for what really makes sense, not letting you be tricked a by such a heartless ruse, find the true villains in this.
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You changed your vote again?

What does this "Bleeder" role encompass?
 
The Shattered Legacy said:
Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
Vote: Spirit. I don't have any killing abilities and I don't have any Night powers! I am just Luigidenne, Bleeder of the Town and if you guys can't see that, I'll take myself down!
Yoshiman222 said:
Oookay, umm... really short explanation that doesn't explain anything to me.
Can you go more into detail about it? Plus, it really feels like you're just trying to rush a kill here...
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I don't really know what else to say; that's all that was in there. What I meant by starting the search, is that we have to refocus ourselves, search for what really makes sense, not letting you be tricked a by such a heartless ruse, find the true villains in this.
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You changed your vote again?
What does this "Bleeder" role encompass?
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  • What else can I do on death row?
  • If I am murdered during the Night phase and Night only, I can still help into the next Day phase-a lifeline. A lynch would make it useless.
 
Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
  • What else can I do on death row?
  • If I am murdered during the Night phase and Night only, I can still help into the next Day phase-a lifeline. A lynch would make it useless.
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Hmm... I have my reasons to believe you if this is the extent of this Bleeder role, but I will need to confirm one thing: after the extra day phase following a successful hit on you, will you then die?

You pretty much answered point one with "a lynch would make it useless".

Also, please don't take 30 minutes to answer something which can take 5. It's not a good look.
 
The Shattered Legacy said:
Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
  • What else can I do on death row?
  • If I am murdered during the Night phase and Night only, I can still help into the next Day phase-a lifeline. A lynch would make it useless.
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Hmm... I have my reasons to believe you if this is the extent of this Bleeder role, but I will need to confirm one thing: after the extra day phase following a successful hit on you, will you then die?

You pretty much answered point one with "a lynch would make it useless".

Also, please don't take 30 minutes to answer something which can take 5. It's not a good look.
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I will die after the following day.
It's about wording carefully, and sometimes, I get distracted because I have a song playing in the background.
 
While waiting for this, well, much more prompt reply, there was something mentioned earlier that sounded off:

Luigidenne3DSGCN said:
...but seriously, lynching me would be a horrible mistake for the town.
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This bleeder role is pretty much at the same power level as a one hit BP or in some games a poisoned player. Horrible mistake? Hmm.

Retracting my FoS ever so slightly. The pieces of the puzzle aren't in alignment yet... but I think someone else will solve the puzzle where I am reading into too many options.

I am a little concerned that there is a mafia role out there which knows the roles of other players and can thus false assume a role to escape persecution; which may or may not go well with a role that leaks messages.

The problem here is if two different types of messages were sent, then could that mean there are two roles that can send messages?

Then if that's the case, the "luigi is evil" message could have been a town crier role message or even a dreamer who somehow has dreams permeate other people's consciousness in the form of an anon message; while the threat would be a mafia message.

...too many role possibilities. I know I shouldn't ask the gamemod but are roles unique across each player?
 
The Shattered Legacy said:
Then if that's the case, the "luigi is evil" message could have been a town crier role message or even a dreamer who somehow has dreams permeate other people's consciousness in the form of an anon message; while the threat would be a mafia message.
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You kinda lost me here, but I think I get what you mean lol.

I'm still really concerned about the fact that LFan wants to take the time to make ''good'' moves and be careful with what she says. Like I said, if you truly know you're not guilty of anything, I think it should be easier for someone to just talk. Work things out and make your points clear, answer questions directly without any vague answers.

Then comes the ''revenge'' part and the ''wild'' guess part. Why? You're the one saying to find the real mafias and you just come up with some random votes with no evidence.

Also for Yoshiman, this is what my anon message said basically (I'm not going to quote it exactly how it was received):
Hope you're not trying to get me out right away. I'll keep you alive tonight with this warning, but if you DARE target me this day, you won't be so lucky next night, understand?

This whole time, LFan seems evasive and is trying to get the attention somewhere else.
Now let's nab the real Mafia! We only have 24 hours left!
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Day 2
Luigi - 3 (Spirit, Noctus, VooDu) [L-1]
Spirit - 1 (Luigi)

No Vote - 2 (Yoshiman, TSL)

It takes four.



Celebrating the US game tonight. If anyone gets hammered, be sure to stop discussion immediately afterward since the hammer sends the game straight into the night phase, even if I'm not online.
 
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