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MLYW said:
Vip is fine as a mod but for bigger decisions he isn't the best so that's why I think the GMod position fits him best for now.
I think VIP was a great admin. People were criticizing him, but he took it maturely and didn't flame at anyone. Aegis has flamed in the few days he's been admin, he flamed in the "Excursion" topic. That's not very admin-material. What admin would countertroll? Just ignore it or talk it out, no need to be a pest.
 
Hmm. Let me review everything slowly.


Dodger said:
Aegis is causing mayhem. This is like the first week he's been admin and look what he's done. On the MPF topic, it wasn't meant for flaming, only for telling events happening on the site. But Aegis, he is just flaming up a storm. TT even said he'll settle this with him on AIM, but Aegis is ignoring and told one of his friends to post porn on MPF. >.>

Simple question is; Should Aegis be de-admined? I sure think so. I don't think a admin flames alot and does this nonsense. Does anyone else agree?

Re bold text: From memory, Aegis posted once which was purely motivated by flaming. Towards MPF in general (and at TT for comments not here...), and Ama. While I certainly am ambivalent towards Ama's comments, I do suppose it is rather unjustified. However, I would like a redirect or text quote so I can see the EXTENT of the flaming.

I will address the position later.

Berrylarry200 said:
I do not feel safe having an admin that flames,  won't settle things peacefully, and an admin that goes around inviting trolls to flame and post mature content. I will not let this site have an admin with bad qualities. I feel it is unfair for him to be admin when he complained all the time about the staff. The only reason Aegis is admin because he complained a lot and he made VIP leave his admin spot when he went on a ragequit saying he wouldn't come back unless VIP wasn't admin and when he came back he was SUPRISINGLY admin.

Point taken. The ragequit was very very obvious, for those who were here.

Dodger said:
Maybe he shouldn't even be mod... I'm not sure. The only thing I know is he shouldn't be admin for this immature behavior. >.<

It is true that choosing to flame someone over something like how a forum is "bad" is inappropriate and immature, if you put it like that.

Crazy_Daisy said:
I agree, he was complaining about VIP being admin so what made him think he could do better? and a flaming Admin is not good for the forum people may wind up quiting. and he was being kinda of a brat by leavin and saying he wont come back unless VIP isnt an admin.

Interesting spin. And as Berry said, Admins who act contrary to the rules doesn't set a good example...

MLYW said:
Aegis should be De-Admined, he constantly flames and handles situations immaturely. He shouldn't be a G-Mod either, none of the staff should be allowed to constantly break rules and continue being a staff.

Re the bold: aside from this recent event and the VIP Admin issue, do we have a source of his flaming?
Re GMod: point taken.

Crazy_Daisy said:
Even though VIP wasnt all that good (no offence to him) he was waay better he didnt flame people

No member should have to flame. >_>

Q said:
Ganging up on aegis, eh? The way I see it, drama has always been happening on this site with or without him.
You guys (the members) are the problem.

If they were, then it would be an issue of Aegis finding a problem with us, which isn't the case. The main issue is that unnecessary drama carried across from elsewhere to here is not acceptable. And no, we are not "ganging up", just making critical observations.

Dodger said:
VIP was great, there's like only 2 things he didn't do well.
1. Send unecessary warnings
2. Waiting for SZ ALL THE TIME
Though the 2nd one being important, he actually cared about this site and took his job seriously, VIP may not be a good admin, but he would be a good G-Mod imo. But Aegis should just...

Re 1: Perhaps it's a force of habit, but such an action may imply discipline.
Re 2: No scruples here.

Vipsoccermaster said:
But yeah, I agree with TT and MLYW. MLYW has a valid point. He constantly broke rules as staff, that's not showing valid signs of being on staff.
I'd like to say that Sir Mario indirectly caused all this. Last week has been hectic, especially yesterday.
@Dodger: 2. Yeah, I'm sorry, I just didn't want to do something that might cause an uproar or accident. I had this fear for a long time, ever since December 2008.

Re Sir Mario: Please, it's not good for Sir Mario himself to put it like this.

The HeartBreak Kid said:
I would be okay with VIP being back, he was also an active member. If VIP were to go back, he'd have to step up like H-J and keep everything going (No offense VIP). Aegis just isn't being mature ever since he got his promotion to Admin. He has been breaking rules since his staff promotion. If he's going to cause mayhem, then he shouldn't be on staff. VIP can do more than Aegis.

Re stepping up: that's true, Admin duty is a huge step above GMod, as VIP is well aware of.
Re maturity: Seems to be quite a recurring term everyone's using. I suppose frustration over your staff results to this...
Re the bold: what have you expected from both that VIP can live up to and Aegis doesn't?

The HeartBreak Kid said:
MLYW said:
Vip is fine as a mod but for bigger decisions he isn't the best so that's why I think the GMod position fits him best for now.
I think VIP was a great admin. People were criticizing him, but he took it maturely and didn't flame at anyone. Aegis has flamed in the few days he's been admin, he flamed in the "Excursion" topic. That's not very admin-material. What admin would countertroll? Just ignore it or talk it out, no need to be a pest.

Re MLYW's comment: True, but I am inclined to think that most high-level decisions forum-wise are at the GMod and Admin level.
Re HBK's reply: Point taken.


 

 
For myself, Aegis has *promised* to do some creative stuff for the forum (which he hasn't done due to CK), and is assisting with some potential restructuring of the forum (nothing overly drastic, mind you). As for what he's done (objectively) here, he has flamed in the aforementioned topic, and perhaps he hasn't had much to achieve, apart from resentment by members here and elsewhere.

Since there seems to be a cloud over Aegis's reputation elsewhere (even though we don't want external drama entering here), I will need to reconsider Aegis's position as an admin, his motives for whatever he might have done, and if he feels competent enough to maintain the integrity that is due of an Admin here.
 
Nobody is ganging up on Aegis. While I didn't like his behavior on MPF, I didn't come here to badmouth him or anything. I came here simply to see how this place was doing (I've been on vacation and got out of the habit of checking in here) and then noticed Dodger's topic about MPF. I decided to give my perspective (just like how members from here gave their perspectives in the topic about this place on MPF). Then Aegis decided to flip out. Obviously he's allowed his opinion, but there is no reason an admin should flame people over anything. I think everyone knows Aegis has strong opinions, so what happens when someone disagrees with him on an issue? Is he going to flame them and tell them to leave? This forum needs MORE members, it doesn't need to be telling current members to leave.

And while you may or may not consider it pertinent, Aegis did get a group of his friends to help attack MPF. With a regular member, this wouldn't really have any standing over here. But I don't think I'd want an admin of my forum attacking other sites. Admins should be held to a higher standard. Hell, MPF is even an affiliate of SMPSF, yet he attacked it. That's bad behavior from an admin.

And Q can try to justify Aegis' actions all he wants, but there was no climate of flaming here before all of this. While this place has its problems, people were not flaming each other like that. Aegis has always been like that (quick to get angry over something small). And that's not a good quality in an admin.

VIP had his issues as an admin. But he at least set a good example and always did what was best for this place. Aegis has set a good (H-J - did you mean bad, or "good" as in he has shown his true colors?) example, and obviously he does not care as much about SMPSF as he does about getting back at people he think wronged him.

EDIT: Meant to say "hasn't set a good example", sorry about that
 
You guys don't even know half the story or know WHY I was mad in the first place.

First off, you guys should really check out MPF's topic about SMPSF. It consists 68 pages of nothing but criticism and bashing towards the site. Now, mind you that yes, I did somewhat agree with them, but overtime, I felt some love towards this site, because this site has potential. SZ said that there would be a few things that he wanted my input on and I responded by saying that I would be happy to help. Remember when me, TT, Cook, and Ama all got banned because of that one topic? Well, SZ was a just a little mad that his site was being bashed at for 48 pages or so at the time. Gee, maybe he should just suck it up, right?  ::) But fortunately, we ALL got unbanned. But still, the topic about SMPSF STILL KEPT GOING AFTER PEACE WAS MADE and was once again bashing the staff, site, and me being admin eventually. So, that brings up to recent events.

Second of all, this whole "ragequtting than coming back from an admin spot" thing was blown way out of proportion. Me and TT were both planning to quit MPF and we were to form a mass leaving party, but people WANTED me back, so I merely made a topic regarding conditions of wanting me back. You guys went along with them, with all for VIP de-admined and me as Admin. I didn't care if I got an Admin spot or not, but I got it and now I want to do something for the site. It's like you guys are saying that I coarsed some evil plot to get VIP off the list. Oh, speaking of which, TT and Snowy's opinions of VIP being a good admin are once again BS because of the topic on SMPSF at MPF. Come on, guys, you have 68 pages of solid evidence that clearly state that you are indeed liars towards the site and that you don't give a crap about it.

Then, TT started to troll the hell out of me saying that I was a s***** admin (he didn't even give me 2 DAYS) and then called me a bitch with no backbone for returning to SMPSF. Then he started to troll the HELL out of SMPSF in every post, it seemed (Even ask Dodger, he'll vouche for me) all on MPF. Thing really ticked me off when Ama and TT posted that i'm a terrible choice for admin when I really haven't done anything yet THEY DON'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE SITE. TT bashes it, Ama ignores it. TT quit as your "Advoiser", but I stayed. You know why? Because I want to HELP this forum.

I don't know why you guys are making a deal with ONE FLAME that was INSTIGATED on SMPSF. Problems on other sites should not be the concerns of others, but apparently, a week into my adminship and already I have a scandal on my ass for something as stupid as this.
 
Aegis is completely right on this. TT and everyone on that topic bashed the site and also called Vip a horrible admin. The only reason they're saying this crap now is because they don't like Aegis and want to start crap. You know it's kinda funny how these two forums are intertwined with each others drama..
 
Ryoux0 said:
Aegis is completely right on this. TT and everyone on that topic bashed the site and also called Vip a horrible admin. The only reason they're saying this crap now is because they don't like Aegis and want to start crap. You know it's kinda funny how these two forums are intertwined with each others drama..

Yeah, it just blows my mind that people actually believe TT thinks that VIP is a good admin. Please, he's bashed him so many times, I can't even count.
 
Ugh, this drama... >.<

While I do agree TT (probably) started this and shouldn't of said what he said, he wanted to end this with you AIM, but you refused and now... look whats happening. One thing I can't believe is you told one of your friends to post porn on MPF and flaming TT and Ama here don't help... And also, as for that topic, even I put my 2 cents a couple of times, though I wasn't bashing the site. =P

What i'm basically saying: Are you good at cleaing up things? Yes. Are you good with communicating with members? No.
 
Dodger said:
Aegis is causing mayhem. This is like the first week he's been admin and look what he's done. On the MPF topic, it wasn't meant for flaming, only for telling events happening on the site (MPF). But Aegis, he is just flaming up a storm. TT even said he'll settle this with him on AIM, but Aegis is ignoring and told one of his friends to post porn on MPF. >.>

How am I causing mayhem over 1 flame that was brought on by MPF? It's not like I posted crap all over SMPSF telling everyone to screw off, I merely posted my anger towards the site. It's partially your fault for even making the topic because I bet you knew that it would be a bad idea to even make such a topic with me being bitter about the site and all. Plus, you didn't state clearly enough to not vent about any members there, so I did it. Sorry for not reading Invisible.

Also, lol "flaming up a storm". The only recent post of mine that's flame worthy is the one we're talking about now and that was because I was venting.


I didn't want to talk to TT because everytime we talk about making peace again (this has happened way before you have joined us, Dodger), we always keep up on going back the same route, so now i'm gonna simply stop talking about "peace between us" because there never really is.

Also, I didn't tell anyone to post porn over on MPF, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Besides, affairs on other forums shouldn't affect things here. Haven't we learned that from the SMPSF topic at MPF? >.>

For the last time, I did not tell anyone to post porn over at MPF. >.<
 
Snowy620™ said:
See, it's hilarious, because TT didn't troll anyone, you're just butthurt.

Failtrolls COMMUNICATE!

TT called me names for coming back on the site and he also unleashed a firestorm of flames against the site. It's kind of hard to not get annoyed by a person with a massive ego who thinks that his forum is top s*** and that anybody remotely inferior is a bad site.
 
I don't see how I'm a "failtroll". Especially when you and your gaggle of dimwits got banned at MPF in a matter of minutes.

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Aegis said:
Snowy620™ said:
See, it's hilarious, because TT didn't troll anyone, you're just butthurt.

Failtrolls COMMUNICATE!

TT called me names for coming back on the site and he also unleashed a firestorm of flames against the site. It's kind of hard to not get annoyed by a person with a massive ego who thinks that his forum is top s*** and that anybody remotely inferior is a bad site.
TT did admit to what he did and said sorry, I don't know why you want to end this, yet you don't talk it out with him. If you don't, there's always going to be a problem. Even if you don't talk to him again, it's better you just talk to him rather than bickering with him.
 
Dodger said:
This is partially my fault? Haha, don't try to bring me into your trouble Aegis, you know very well I defended you and stuff, but I stoppped once I saw you saying stuff on MPF. And as for the topic, it wasn't made for flaming, I don't know why your saying that. >.<

You made the topic without any rules against venting or anger against the site, so there you have it.

Look, I shouldn't say it's your fault, I apologize. It was me who posted the thing, so I take back that statement.  ;)

I Agree Aegis really needs to Chill c'mon he flames and gets away with it?C'mon at least give him 1 warning for that and De-Admin him and turn him to G-mod Again
...I don't think I would get away with anything, but ok, put words in my mouth and make me a bad person.

Aegis isn't fit to even be on staff.

I'd rather have VIP as admin again.
Again, you're just mad about me being an admin and me being accused of posting porn of MPF, so you're the one who's butthurt and making up lies about wanting VIP back. You guys bashed his ass god knows how many times, especially you.
 
Aegis should be De-Admined, he constantly flames and handles situations immaturely. He shouldn't be a G-Mod either, none of the staff should be allowed to constantly break rules and continue being a staff.

MY GOD, I only posted one post that's counting as flame right now, it's not like I posted multiple rants and crap like that. One post is not constanly breaking rules, and from the past week, I don't think I have been breaking rules AT ALL.

Crazy_Daisy said:
Q said:
I know exactly what's going on. You're mad at aegis because you think he flames, but you guys are always flaming each other. Aegis merely represents the bad on this forum, if he has done what you say he's done.

Fix yourselves before yelling at another person.
If you dont jsut be quiet there will be some yelling!!

I find this ironic that a topic pointing at me for flaming is getting flame threats like this one. Seriously?


What rules have I been breaking so far? Don't even mention the MPF Incident (which I'm not even guilty of) or that post towards Ama, what are some rules that I have currently broken? If you can't name one goddamn thing, please don't use that as an excuse to give me the boot.
 
Aegis said:
Dodger said:
This is partially my fault? Haha, don't try to bring me into your trouble Aegis, you know very well I defended you and stuff, but I stoppped once I saw you saying stuff on MPF. And as for the topic, it wasn't made for flaming, I don't know why your saying that. >.<

You made the topic without any rules against venting or anger against the site, so there you have it.

Look, I shouldn't say it's your fault, I apologize. It was me who posted the thing, so I take back that statement.  ;)

I Agree Aegis really needs to Chill c'mon he flames and gets away with it?C'mon at least give him 1 warning for that and De-Admin him and turn him to G-mod Again
...I don't think I would get away with anything, but ok, put words in my mouth and make me a bad person.

Aegis isn't fit to even be on staff.

I'd rather have VIP as admin again.
Again, you're just mad about me being an admin and me being accused of posting porn of MPF, so you're the one who's butthurt and making up lies about wanting VIP back. You guys bashed his ass god knows how many times, especially you.
It's not that you're a bad person it's just that I saw you flaming badly on the Site and pretty much losing your Friends.Maybe you should at least stop taking things too seriously C'mon You were doing a great job before but I return to the Site and then this happens...
 
Snowy620™ said:
Um, no, you're just a (pardon my French) a s***ty admin.

If you're here just to flame and rant, then get out of this topic. We don't need your kind of crap stirring up more flames.
 
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