So what if it's been a decade, and I know we haven't been to the playoffs in 5 years, but we will be soon. Those Pats are nothing without Tom Brady and Randy Moss. Once they're gone, you guys are screwed.SolidSnake17 said:
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Didn't the Patriots win 11 games when Matt Cassel took over at quarterback when Brady got injured? Didn't the Patriots win their 3 Super Bowls without a superstar wide receiver? Just sayin'.HBK said:
Yeah, as stated earlier, Randy Moss was the one that made the team win. The Super Bowls needed Tom Brady. As stated earlier, without them both, they are SCREWED.SolidSnake17 said:Didn't the Patriots win 11 games when Matt Cassel took over at quarterback when Brady got injured? Didn't the Patriots win their 3 Super Bowls without a superstar wide receiver? Just sayin'.
If I remember right, Wes Welker was the leading receiver in number of receptions the past few seasons, and possibly receiving yards. I'm not sure about the second one. There was also the astounding defense during those Super Bowl years, we just needed a quarterback who could throw better than Drew Bledsoe. That wasn't very hard to find, considering Brady was drafted in the sixth round.HBK said:Yeah, as stated earlier, Randy Moss was the one that made the team win. The Super Bowls needed Tom Brady. As stated earlier, without them both, they are SCREWED.SolidSnake17 said:Didn't the Patriots win 11 games when Matt Cassel took over at quarterback when Brady got injured? Didn't the Patriots win their 3 Super Bowls without a superstar wide receiver? Just sayin'.
Okay. Well, he's hurt now ;D. Anyway, this topic is for Broncos fans or people that like them, so I'm moving these posts to the NFL Blog. And let's talk about more than just the Pats and Broncos...
Sorry about turning your Broncos topic into a Patriots one, but you started trying to badmouth my team, so I countered.
BTW, Wes Welker is participating in full-contact training camp practices, and he's off the PUP (Physically Unable to Perform) list, so I don't know where you get the idea that he's hurt.
BTW, Wes Welker is participating in full-contact training camp practices, and he's off the PUP (Physically Unable to Perform) list, so I don't know where you get the idea that he's hurt.
You said we were stealing players, we weren'tSolidSnake17 said:
. But anyway, I thought he was suppose to be out for the season.I thought so too until ESPN said he was ahead of schedule and participating in training camp.
On a different note, I love debate. ;D
On a different note, I love debate. ;D
Just sayin, but while we're on the Patriots discussion, who beat the undefeated Pats? The fucking Giants baby! 8)
Randy Moss moves from New England to Minnesota, plays 3 games in MN, gets waived and is picked up by the 5-3 Titans.
I'd have to agree with Brad Childress saying it was a poor decision, they just gave the Pats a free 3rd round pick. Tennessee will definitely benefit from his move.
My teams are going well, minus the Chargers. Would like to see Falcons be ahead of the Saints at the end of the season.
My tips for Week 9:
NE
BAL
ATL
CHI
NYJ
ARI
CIN
NYG
NO
HOU
IND
KC
GB
Let's face it, the Bills are dead.
The Dolphins do have a chance, though I'm backing my least favourite team. (No offense to Ravens fans.)
The Patriots look set for a playoff run.
The Jets could meet their match here against the Lions, but, I've simmed this game plenty of times in Madden 08, and the Jets always win.
The Ravens have a tough match against the Dolphins, though I think Baltimore's streak will continue.
The Bengals don't look too well, though I'm taking a gamble by picking them over the Steelers.
The Browns will need a miracle to beat the Pats.
The Steelers look like they're going to win, but I'm taking risks in their match.
The Texans are going to have quite an easy match against the Chargers.
The Colts look set to overcome the Eagles, but I reckon it'll be close.
The Jaguars have the bye, so they look to get themselves ready in time for Houston.
The Titans also have the bye, and it'll be interesting to see what Randy Moss can do to Miami.
The Broncos have the bye as well, and I reckon they can take Kansas City.
The Chiefs I think have enough strength to overcome the Raiders. It was actually the same game that got me into the NFL.
The Raiders have their work cut out against the Chiefs, an they have a fair chance, but I'm still going against them.
The Chargers don't look steady, and their playoff run will be dealt a blow if they lose to Houston.
The Cowboys I think are quite weak, though I still think they have a chance.
The Giants definitely have the firepower to overcome the Seahawks.
The Eagles have lost quite a few keys to the playoffs, though Michael Vick can give them a chance to beat Indy.
The Redskins have the bye, so they need to prepare for when they verse Philly.
The Bears have a walkover against Buffalo, though they might lose after what the Bills did to Baltimore.
The Lions don't have very much hope against the Jets.
The Packers will be able to beat Dallas with not too much trouble.
The Vikings have lost Randy Moss and that could cost them against the Cardinals.
The Falcons will have a huge showdown against Tampa Bay which will be critical at the end.
The Panthers don't have much of a chance against New Orleans.
The Saints seem to have a stroll against the Panthers.
The Bucs will put up a fight against Atlanta, but I think they don't have much momentum going.
The Cards look to have it all to play for against the Vikes, and I think they'll scoop the pot.
The Rams are on the bye, as are the 49ers.
And finally, the Seahawks will struggle against NYG, and eventually will collapse against Eli Manning's team.
What do you guys think about my predictions?
Off-topic, I have Patriotfox for my Firefox theme. (Would be Duke U, but they don't have it.)
I'd have to agree with Brad Childress saying it was a poor decision, they just gave the Pats a free 3rd round pick. Tennessee will definitely benefit from his move.
My teams are going well, minus the Chargers. Would like to see Falcons be ahead of the Saints at the end of the season.
My tips for Week 9:
NE
BAL
ATL
CHI
NYJ
ARI
CIN
NYG
NO
HOU
IND
KC
GB
Let's face it, the Bills are dead.
The Dolphins do have a chance, though I'm backing my least favourite team. (No offense to Ravens fans.)
The Patriots look set for a playoff run.
The Jets could meet their match here against the Lions, but, I've simmed this game plenty of times in Madden 08, and the Jets always win.
The Ravens have a tough match against the Dolphins, though I think Baltimore's streak will continue.
The Bengals don't look too well, though I'm taking a gamble by picking them over the Steelers.
The Browns will need a miracle to beat the Pats.
The Steelers look like they're going to win, but I'm taking risks in their match.
The Texans are going to have quite an easy match against the Chargers.
The Colts look set to overcome the Eagles, but I reckon it'll be close.
The Jaguars have the bye, so they look to get themselves ready in time for Houston.
The Titans also have the bye, and it'll be interesting to see what Randy Moss can do to Miami.
The Broncos have the bye as well, and I reckon they can take Kansas City.
The Chiefs I think have enough strength to overcome the Raiders. It was actually the same game that got me into the NFL.
The Raiders have their work cut out against the Chiefs, an they have a fair chance, but I'm still going against them.
The Chargers don't look steady, and their playoff run will be dealt a blow if they lose to Houston.
The Cowboys I think are quite weak, though I still think they have a chance.
The Giants definitely have the firepower to overcome the Seahawks.
The Eagles have lost quite a few keys to the playoffs, though Michael Vick can give them a chance to beat Indy.
The Redskins have the bye, so they need to prepare for when they verse Philly.
The Bears have a walkover against Buffalo, though they might lose after what the Bills did to Baltimore.
The Lions don't have very much hope against the Jets.
The Packers will be able to beat Dallas with not too much trouble.
The Vikings have lost Randy Moss and that could cost them against the Cardinals.
The Falcons will have a huge showdown against Tampa Bay which will be critical at the end.
The Panthers don't have much of a chance against New Orleans.
The Saints seem to have a stroll against the Panthers.
The Bucs will put up a fight against Atlanta, but I think they don't have much momentum going.
The Cards look to have it all to play for against the Vikes, and I think they'll scoop the pot.
The Rams are on the bye, as are the 49ers.
And finally, the Seahawks will struggle against NYG, and eventually will collapse against Eli Manning's team.
What do you guys think about my predictions?
Off-topic, I have Patriotfox for my Firefox theme. (Would be Duke U, but they don't have it.)
Brad Childress is such a dumbass, I feel bad for Vikings fans stuck with that fag.
And um, anyone remember all that talk about Tom Coughlin losing his job? Where'd that go? I always knew he'd rebound with the Giants. I'm just glad the Giants D is fierce again. ;D
My picks this week at 2 am:
Jets over Lions (Jets will eek it out)
Phins (Upset win for Phins)
Pats (Pats are too good right now, Brady's got a good rythym without moss)
Texans over Chargers (this one can go either way but texans will be the better team i think)
Bills over Chicago (Cutler will throw 2 interceptions to one guy, watch)
Vikings over Arizona (Who's Arizona's QB this week? How many picks will he throw this game?)
Falcons over Bucs (Falcons will blow out the Bucs and prove the Bucs only win against half ass teams)
Panthers over Saints (Saints really know how to fuck up trap games, they lost to Arizona and Cleveland)
Giants over Hawks (Hawks dont even have their starting QB...)
Philly over Colts (Go Vick!!!)
Chiefs over Raiders (Cause the Chiefs actually have a defense unlike Seattle and Denver)
Packers over Cowboys (Jon Kitna is not the answer for the Cowboys at QB...)
Steelevers over Bengals (Bengals are good in division games but I don't see them winning, Palmer will definitely choke or something)
And um, anyone remember all that talk about Tom Coughlin losing his job? Where'd that go? I always knew he'd rebound with the Giants. I'm just glad the Giants D is fierce again. ;D
My picks this week at 2 am:
Jets over Lions (Jets will eek it out)
Phins (Upset win for Phins)
Pats (Pats are too good right now, Brady's got a good rythym without moss)
Texans over Chargers (this one can go either way but texans will be the better team i think)
Bills over Chicago (Cutler will throw 2 interceptions to one guy, watch
)Vikings over Arizona (Who's Arizona's QB this week? How many picks will he throw this game?)
Falcons over Bucs (Falcons will blow out the Bucs and prove the Bucs only win against half ass teams)
Panthers over Saints (Saints really know how to fuck up trap games, they lost to Arizona and Cleveland)
Giants over Hawks (Hawks dont even have their starting QB...)
Philly over Colts (Go Vick!!!)
Chiefs over Raiders (Cause the Chiefs actually have a defense unlike Seattle and Denver)
Packers over Cowboys (Jon Kitna is not the answer for the Cowboys at QB...)
Steelevers over Bengals (Bengals are good in division games but I don't see them winning, Palmer will definitely choke or something)
Pats took a huge loss to the Browns.
Raiders just overcame Kansas City.
Philly squeaked a win against Indy.
Giants thrashed Seattle.
Atlanta took a win against the Bucs.
A pretty easy win for the Ravens over the previous Super Bowl hosts.
Chicago had it easy against Buffalo.
New Orleans took down the Panthers easy.
San Diego pulled an upset against Houston.
Cookie made a good call in the Jets and Lions game, and another in the Arizona-Vikings game.
And finally, Dallas went down hard against the Cheeseheads.
Standings:
NE 6-2-0 A E 1
NYJ 6-2-0 A E 2
BAL 6-2-0 A N 1
NYG 6-2-0 N E 1
ATL 6-2-0 N S 1
PIT 6-2-0 A N 2
NO 6-3-0 N S 2
CHI 5-3-0 N N 1
GB 5-3-0 N N 2
TEN 5-3-0 A S 1
IND 5-3-0 A S 2
KC 5-3-0 A W 1
PHI 5-3-0 N E 2
TB 5-3-0 N S 3
OAK 5-4-0 A W 2
HOU 4-4-0 A S 3
JAC 4-4-0 A S 4
STL 4-4-0 N W 1
MIA 4-4-0 A E 3
SEA 4-4-0 N W 2
WAS 4-4-0 N E 3
SD 4-5-0 A W 3
CLE 3-5-0 A N 3
MIN 3-5-0 N N 3
ARI 3-5-0 N W 3
CIN 2-6-0 A N 4
DEN 2-6-0 A W 4
DET 2-6-0 N N 4
SF 2-6-0 N W 4
DAL 1-6-0 N E 4
CAR 1-7-0 N S 4
BUF 0-8-0 A E 4
Current Playoff Spots:
NE
BAL
TEN
KC
NYJ
PIT
ATL
NYG
NO
CHI
GB
PHI
Prediction Results:
1-1
1-1
1-2
2-3
3-4
4-4
5-4
6-4
6-4
7-5
7-5
7-6
7-7
Pittsburgh took it by 6 over Cincinnati.
Came to a tie in terms of predictions.
Raiders just overcame Kansas City.
Philly squeaked a win against Indy.
Giants thrashed Seattle.
Atlanta took a win against the Bucs.
A pretty easy win for the Ravens over the previous Super Bowl hosts.
Chicago had it easy against Buffalo.
New Orleans took down the Panthers easy.
San Diego pulled an upset against Houston.
Cookie made a good call in the Jets and Lions game, and another in the Arizona-Vikings game.
And finally, Dallas went down hard against the Cheeseheads.
Standings:
NE 6-2-0 A E 1
NYJ 6-2-0 A E 2
BAL 6-2-0 A N 1
NYG 6-2-0 N E 1
ATL 6-2-0 N S 1
PIT 6-2-0 A N 2
NO 6-3-0 N S 2
CHI 5-3-0 N N 1
GB 5-3-0 N N 2
TEN 5-3-0 A S 1
IND 5-3-0 A S 2
KC 5-3-0 A W 1
PHI 5-3-0 N E 2
TB 5-3-0 N S 3
OAK 5-4-0 A W 2
HOU 4-4-0 A S 3
JAC 4-4-0 A S 4
STL 4-4-0 N W 1
MIA 4-4-0 A E 3
SEA 4-4-0 N W 2
WAS 4-4-0 N E 3
SD 4-5-0 A W 3
CLE 3-5-0 A N 3
MIN 3-5-0 N N 3
ARI 3-5-0 N W 3
CIN 2-6-0 A N 4
DEN 2-6-0 A W 4
DET 2-6-0 N N 4
SF 2-6-0 N W 4
DAL 1-6-0 N E 4
CAR 1-7-0 N S 4
BUF 0-8-0 A E 4
Current Playoff Spots:
NE
BAL
TEN
KC
NYJ
PIT
ATL
NYG
NO
CHI
GB
PHI
Prediction Results:
1-1
1-1
1-2
2-3
3-4
4-4
5-4
6-4
6-4
7-5
7-5
7-6
7-7
Pittsburgh took it by 6 over Cincinnati.
Came to a tie in terms of predictions.
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