[MPM:BR] Hammer Bro's Battle Canyon (TWILIGHT 4)

chaosshadow123 said:
★Plum★ said:
Sorry for not being here oftenIt's hard to type long things using the crummy Wii internet keyboard. My computer busted.
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Sorry to hear that Plum

Are you trring to challenge VIP discretely H-J? But this may be how it turns out, assuming Plum is gone of course, but only time will tell.
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HEY! What's all this “If Plum is voted out”? I'm staying now! To fight till the end! *punches* My motivation to stay alive is on fire now.
 
★Plum★ said:
chaosshadow123 said:
★Plum★ said:
Sorry for not being here oftenIt's hard to type long things using the crummy Wii internet keyboard. My computer busted.
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Sorry to hear that Plum

Are you trring to challenge VIP discretely H-J? But this may be how it turns out, assuming Plum is gone of course, but only time will tell.
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Well that;s good, because I think you were challenged by sax.
HEY! What's all this “If Plum is voted out”? I'm staying now! To fight till the end! *punches* My motivation to stay alive is on fire now.
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saxprodigee said:
Role-Pondering, and Role-Faking will get us nowhere. I am a toad believe it or not. Do what you think is right. No offense to Slacker but I do not like this game format. Can't wait to see what the next one is though. I say let's just end this game to get on with the next one.
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No offense taken, a lot of people didn't really like this game. Next game is super legit, one of my favorites.


4TH CHALLENGE
Sax vs. Plum

Sax - 0 ()
Plum - 1 (Sax)
No Vote - 8 (HJ, Toblet, NFan, Vip, Chaos, Plum, Yoshi, Yoshiman)

It takes five.
 
So I go out to dinner and then in 2.5 hours, a 1.5 page of posts comes up.

So quite the discussion, but no votes at all except one.

Yes, H-J, I trust anyone, just not when it's April 1, but that's not the point.

Also, H-J, for the possible match-ups you made, why do you say that? Could you elaborate your reasoning behind those choices?
 
So much discussion. O_O  I don't know where to start.

At the time being, I think Plums answer is very legit. I think typing with a Wii remote can be quite frustrating. Also Cancer therapy can be quite stressful and I certainly wouldn't want to be talking to anyone while having that going on.

It's possible Sax is town but I find it hard to believe since he once again rushed in to challenge someone. It's making me scratch my head the way he's so desperate to say he's town. He also says "I say let's just end this game to get onto the next one". Does that mean he's expecting Plum to be voted off? Before I cast any vote, I want both Plum and Sax to answer the question 'Why shouldn't I vote for you?'.

Minor FoS on Plum
Major FoS on Sax
 
Yes, but is he trying to make us think that he's voting for anyone? In both challenges he voted for me, but changed his vote to maybe give the impression he was 'flexible'. I think it's obvious Sax doesn't care whether I'm in the game or not. Maybe he was able to change his votes so easily because nobody in his team were being challenged. On the other hand, maybe he is actually genuinely confused as to who to vote for?
 
Well, Sax is a tricky player around here, it seems. True, the whole scheme of this challenge just happened to be a bit quick, kind of making the game to get going, because Sax believes that the game is going nowhere if it's just discussion without a challenge, or a challenge with discussion, but no votes. Of course, discussion is a vital part into collecting information from others, but deadlines can be an issue because Slacker can randomly choose players to pit each other, and you don't know if that could end up being you.

And as to what H-J said about that match up, there are three possible ways:

Town VS. Town - Guaranteed Town Loss
Town VS. Mafia - 50/50 Chance
Mafia VS. Mafia - Guaranteed Mafia Loss

Still, the example here shows the mafia is being used as a whole, not one mafia group.

But yeah, there are two groups.
 
31GHT B1T S3RVANT said:
But if we consider the probabilities, stalling is better for town is it not?
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True, that's why I want to give Plum and Sax and opportunity's to speak.

I've been looking at the other posts and when both me and Weevil challenged people quickly, VIP said nothing about me and Weevil possibly speeding up the game when we thought the game was going nowhere. I think VIP could possibly be defending Sax.

Also, VIP's previous answer to 8-bit was a very safe answer about 'it would be bad if another town were gone' etc... That should not be forgotten about.

Then again, I have been proven wrong before. =p
 
The deadline scared me. I didn't randomly want to be pitted against somebody that we had no information on. I just challenged who the main person that we were talking about was and challenged. I get Plum's reason because even before she said that, she dropped out of my game for the same reason, so I knew what was going on with. The next line in spoiler bar might be considered rude to some people. I honestly do not wish pain upon Plum or anybody else. Plum is going through a difficult part in his life, but the only reference I am making to that is the computer situation. He most likely is telling the truth about the computer, but I think the computer busting is helping him hide his role.

Plum. Plum, I hope I do not offend you in any way and I mean that sincerely, but I think the situation you are in with your computer is the ultimate cover up for your role.
 
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