Mario Party 3DS

I think you guys are taking the character chances a bit too seriously. From what I've seen, Nintendo adds characters based off two requirements: popularity and importance to the franchise. Now obviously, we have those like Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser who satisfy both requirements. However, recently we have seen characters like Waluigi and Daisy who have somewhat slipped into games without consideration to the second requirement. These two are insignificant to the main Mario series as a whole with the former having not appeared outside of the spin-offs as of yet.

Now how did these two get into so many spin-offs? They satisfied the roles of being the partners for Wario and Peach respectively and gained fan bases. Birdo was been quite "dead" in the series until MT64 introduced her revival as Yoshi's partner. It doesn't matter if Birdo was made prior to Yoshi as she only returned and became recurring thanks to the partner system in games like MT64 and MK:DD. If it wasn't for the partner system, I'd imagine that Birdo would be in the same situation that Wart, Mouser, and all the other SMB2 exclusive bosses would be in right now.

Now all of this also applies to Toadette. She was created as Toad's partner; however, that here is the problem. During the late N64-early GCN era, Toad started to decline in playable appearances in the spin-offs (thanks to Camelot's dominance) and this was really his worst era of appearances as he lost a lot of importance here. As a result, his own appearances (as playable) were rather shaky/limited and due to this, there was more of a concern as to whether or not Toad himself would get into a game and only after this had happened would this allow Toadette to seem plausible. Very much like any of the other partner based characters (their own appearances were mostly based off their partner's appearances - they cannot stand alone without them).

As of recently, Toad has somewhat been revived and has been featured as a playable character more often. I think that thanks to Toad's own more recurring appearances, Toadette stands a much stronger chance than before and this will become increasingly obvious by the near future. Remember that the spin-offs we've had so far during the last four years are mostly collaboration games (between Nintendo and other companies) and games consisting of limited rosters due to time constraint. We did not get any games with seemingly large rosters as like in the past. Once we get some Wii U Mario spin-offs in order, Toadette will surely make her grand re-entrance back to the series. I'm sure of it! Her fan base has always been a strong one and she has quite a history behind her as well in the spin-offs (as well as PM: TTYD and a cameo in SMG). :-D

Her absence in Mario Party 9? I somewhat put that blame on Nd cube as there is a limit as to the amount of characters they could use, and I guess they couldn't fit her in based off of all the rebooting they did to the series through that game. Though judging by the fact that there is no references to her at all in the game, I'd imagine that she might have actually been planned as a playable character at some point of time and was cut later on. I might be wrong; however, that is what I think. It's unusual for a playable character to simply be cut with no references in the next game. Toadette had a prominent role in MPDS, so I'd imagine that her cut was not intentional.

★Plum★ said:
NO Toad should stay as the ref it's what hes good at.

I don't know. I personally think he's better off as a playable (considering that he was one of the franchise's earliest playable characters and there are fans who are willing to play as him [myself included]). We could always get the generic Toads or Toadsworth as a substitute for a referee.  :)
 
Daisy stayed in the Mario series to give the rosters another female character. If you've seen Peach in the early Mario anime, Peach had dark brown hair and had a similar appearance to Daisy. Also, Daisy appeared in the game 'Super Mario Land' in 1989 so it's not like Daisy is foreign to the series.

Waluigi however, appeared out of nowhere in Mario Tennis. Waluigi doesn't have any importance to the series, but Daisy does.
 
Toblet said:
Daisy stayed in the Mario series to give the rosters another female character. If you've seen Peach in the early Mario anime, Peach had dark brown hair and had a similar appearance to Daisy. Also, Daisy appeared in the game 'Super Mario Land' in 1989 so it's not like Daisy is foreign to the series.

Waluigi however, appeared out of nowhere in Mario Tennis. Waluigi doesn't have any importance to the series, but Daisy does.

Peach's appearances in the early Mario media was not to make a reference to Daisy at all actually. In fact, Peach's own appearances in the earlier games did portray her as a brunette (as based off her sprites-not artwork) and due to her general similar appearance to the later created Daisy, her appearance in these media made her have a look that is quite similar to Daisy's current design. Daisy's role in SML is one point, and that is why I did not say that she was completely absent from the main series. However, this appearance alone is very small when compared to all of the mainstream Mario games.

Regardless, Daisy does serve a role as Luigi's love interest (and another playable female) which is seemingly more cannon than Luigi's rivalry with Waluigi. There is also that Mario movie which featured Daisy, but then again the movie on its own was never accepted that well. She does have some connection to the main series; however, Daisy is still better known to the spin-offs if anything as it were those games that developed her and made her seemingly more important from what I see.

Waluigi's appearance was definitely out of the blue in his debut and to this day he stills serves very little significance outside of the spin-offs (no offense to the fans of Waluigi, just had to make this point).
 
Peach's artwork always showed her with blonde hair and pink clothes and she was only a red head in early games due to color limitations. Old Daisy was like Peach with her long hair and similar clothing design, but when she got an updated look she actually stole the face of another character, so we are actually playing as Azaila who is just renamed Daisy. :p
 
gameguy1996 said:
Not true it has two have 14 or more two have toadette,waluigi gets a spot because he was made for the spin offs,Daisy is there because they need a female that isn't peach and  Birdo is there because they kind of count it as a 3rd female.
That's not a valid reason why he should stay in the Spin-offs. There are plenty of other characters that could replace Waluigi. He is insignificant outside spin-offs and therefore he doesn't deserve a permanent place in the roster.
 
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