Complaint About the Staff

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Since there's no complain topic I'll make one. I would PM but I wanna make it public so everyone can hear with I'm saying and add suggestions and whatever. But my problem is the staff just doesn't do their job well. There are always topics that need to be moved but no one does it until someone complains. And there's no excuse since Vip is on the forum all day. They don't do a good job moderating when it comes to tolerance on spam and in general dumb posts.

This is why I really respect what Aegis is doing here, because he's doing the best job you could ask for with the boards he had, you can tell which boards he moderates because it's the ones that are managed well.

This is basically what was said on MPF. So I'll just raise the topic here so maybe something can actually get about it. Some people on the staff just aren't cut for it, no offense. Like I think kingboo is an alright person, but I don't think he's cut as a moderator. I would never make him a mod on a site I ran because he just isn't cut. Neither is BerryLarry, a lot of people complain about him and even the staff themselves have questioned how the hell he became a mod. The only thing he's been doing is trolling the shoutbox, he needs to learn his limits, just cause you moderate the MP boards doesn't mean you run the shoutbox. They'll make you a G-Mod if they wanted you to do that.

And there are some worthy people out there for moderating positions, even though it's only a few people. Tovarisch (Comrade Kramly or whatever here) used to be a great moderator on the old forum and is capable of doing a better job than BerryLarry, kingboo, or yoshi1 who are all current mods not really doing a good job. Even N64_Thwomp or Kintetic, both more newer members, they've been here for a little bit now and I think it'd be smart to make them moderators over those 3 I mentioned. You can't just pick members because they don't get banned and have been here for a year, that doesn't mean they're gonna do a good job moderating. I understand you need to take chances sometimes, like on Marioguy who developed into a respectable staff member, but you can't just take chances because it makes the forum look like a joke.

Seriously, why in the world would you archive the Member Rankings topic? I went to look for it to check the rankings only to find it in the safe (and still sticked, you guys need to unsticky topics in the safe)... I'm not trying to flame the site and troll or whatever which is what SZ used to think and what some of you more...immature members might think, I'm trying to make a statement for the site to improve because it's current state is a joke unless you're 8 years old.

This site needs to reconstruct it's staff if it wants to be respectable, for a start. I know it's hard to kick people off the staff, but you need to do it for the better of the site. If they're smart they'll understand it's for the better of the forum and not have such a sour attitude. People like Tovarisch are great candidates waiting to be picked. But I'm considering leaving this forum because it's so horribly managed, but I really don't wanna leave and would love to see a reform that would make me want to stay here. But if nothing gets done here like it's been for...forever, I'll just leave. I have no problem leaving a forum that is horribly managed and is full of spam. So let's get something done here, now rather than later please.
 
cookieboy17 said:
Since there's no complain topic I'll make one. I would PM but I wanna make it public so everyone can hear with I'm saying and add suggestions and whatever. But my problem is the staff just doesn't do their job well. There are always topics that need to be moved but no one does it until someone complains. And there's no excuse since Vip is on the forum all day. They don't do a good job moderating when it comes to tolerance on spam and in general dumb posts.

This is why I really respect what Aegis is doing here, because he's doing the best job you could ask for with the boards he had, you can tell which boards he moderates because it's the ones that are managed well.

This is basically what was said on MPF. So I'll just raise the topic here so maybe something can actually get about it. Some people on the staff just aren't cut for it, no offense. Like I think kingboo is an alright person, but I don't think he's cut as a moderator. I would never make him a mod on a site I ran because he just isn't cut. Neither is BerryLarry, a lot of people complain about him and even the staff themselves have questioned how the hell he became a mod. The only thing he's been doing is trolling the shoutbox, he needs to learn his limits, just cause you moderate the MP boards doesn't mean you run the shoutbox. They'll make you a G-Mod if they wanted you to do that.

And there are some worthy people out there for moderating positions, even though it's only a few people. Tovarisch (Comrade Kramly or whatever here) used to be a great moderator on the old forum and is capable of doing a better job than BerryLarry, kingboo, or yoshi1 who are all current mods not really doing a good job. Even N64_Thwomp or Kintetic, both more newer members, they've been here for a little bit now and I think it'd be smart to make them moderators over those 3 I mentioned. You can't just pick members because they don't get banned and have been here for a year, that doesn't mean they're gonna do a good job moderating. I understand you need to take chances sometimes, like on Marioguy who developed into a respectable staff member, but you can't just take chances because it makes the forum look like a joke.

Seriously, why in the world would you archive the Member Rankings topic? I went to look for it to check the rankings only to find it in the safe (and still sticked, you guys need to unsticky topics in the safe)... I'm not trying to flame the site and troll or whatever which is what SZ used to think and what some of you more...immature members might think, I'm trying to make a statement for the site to improve because it's current state is a joke unless you're 8 years old.

This site needs to reconstruct it's staff if it wants to be respectable, for a start. I know it's hard to kick people off the staff, but you need to do it for the better of the site. If they're smart they'll understand it's for the better of the forum and not have such a sour attitude. People like Tovarisch are great candidates waiting to be picked. But I'm considering leaving this forum because it's so horribly managed, but I really don't wanna leave and would love to see a reform that would make me want to stay here. But if nothing gets done here like it's been for...forever, I'll just leave. I have no problem leaving a forum that is horribly managed and is full of spam. So let's get something done here, now rather than later please.
No offense to the staff, but I kind of agree, when there is a mistake, no one fixes it until it's mentioned. Also, SZ is busy working with the site/forum and with other things. We'll have to let SZ figure it out for now.
 
Chubbo1793 said:
cookieboy17 said:
Since there's no complain topic I'll make one. I would PM but I wanna make it public so everyone can hear with I'm saying and add suggestions and whatever. But my problem is the staff just doesn't do their job well. There are always topics that need to be moved but no one does it until someone complains. And there's no excuse since Vip is on the forum all day. They don't do a good job moderating when it comes to tolerance on spam and in general dumb posts.

This is why I really respect what Aegis is doing here, because he's doing the best job you could ask for with the boards he had, you can tell which boards he moderates because it's the ones that are managed well.

This is basically what was said on MPF. So I'll just raise the topic here so maybe something can actually get about it. Some people on the staff just aren't cut for it, no offense. Like I think kingboo is an alright person, but I don't think he's cut as a moderator. I would never make him a mod on a site I ran because he just isn't cut. Neither is BerryLarry, a lot of people complain about him and even the staff themselves have questioned how the hell he became a mod. The only thing he's been doing is trolling the shoutbox, he needs to learn his limits, just cause you moderate the MP boards doesn't mean you run the shoutbox. They'll make you a G-Mod if they wanted you to do that.

And there are some worthy people out there for moderating positions, even though it's only a few people. Tovarisch (Comrade Kramly or whatever here) used to be a great moderator on the old forum and is capable of doing a better job than BerryLarry, kingboo, or yoshi1 who are all current mods not really doing a good job. Even N64_Thwomp or Kintetic, both more newer members, they've been here for a little bit now and I think it'd be smart to make them moderators over those 3 I mentioned. You can't just pick members because they don't get banned and have been here for a year, that doesn't mean they're gonna do a good job moderating. I understand you need to take chances sometimes, like on Marioguy who developed into a respectable staff member, but you can't just take chances because it makes the forum look like a joke.

Seriously, why in the world would you archive the Member Rankings topic? I went to look for it to check the rankings only to find it in the safe (and still sticked, you guys need to unsticky topics in the safe)... I'm not trying to flame the site and troll or whatever which is what SZ used to think and what some of you more...immature members might think, I'm trying to make a statement for the site to improve because it's current state is a joke unless you're 8 years old.

This site needs to reconstruct it's staff if it wants to be respectable, for a start. I know it's hard to kick people off the staff, but you need to do it for the better of the site. If they're smart they'll understand it's for the better of the forum and not have such a sour attitude. People like Tovarisch are great candidates waiting to be picked. But I'm considering leaving this forum because it's so horribly managed, but I really don't wanna leave and would love to see a reform that would make me want to stay here. But if nothing gets done here like it's been for...forever, I'll just leave. I have no problem leaving a forum that is horribly managed and is full of spam. So let's get something done here, now rather than later please.
No offense to the staff, but I kind of agree, when there is a mistake, no one fixes it until it's mentioned. Also, SZ is busy working with the site/forum and with other things. We'll have to let SZ figure it out for now.
I agree with you guys, I don't know how many topics I saw on the general mario party that should be on the future discussion, some mods are ok, but others are just... well you know like cook said. I agree that N64_Thwomp and Kinetic could do a really good job.
 
He's right, this forum is a joke. Especially the ban I got for criticizing the site on MPF. This is exactly why there is a serious lack of good active members here; Chubbo & JxT seem to be the only good people who are active here and like the site. Cook, Ama, Snowy, Aegis and me all can't stand it.
 
I completely agree. The staff do a horrible job of getting rid of spam and waste time and energy going after people who aren't even doing anything wrong. The go after the members who are having fun telling harmless jokes instead of deleting the spam.

Aegis, H-J, SZ and Vip do a great job. They actually want to make this place a fun place for everyone, not just the little brats who seem to have taken over the place.  Everyone else just doesn't care or lets the power go to their head.

I'm actually with Cook on the leaving thing. This place used to be fun but now with all the crap it's just gotten way too kiddish and boring. We need a revamp and new staff to help this site be what it used to be.
 
Snowy The Czar said:
Aegis and H-J (maybe VIP) are really the only good people on staff.

Kingboo is pretty aight, and Air Mario is pretty chill.

But Aegis is the only who serves justice. =P
Yea man people like Vip and H-J are alright to keep on the staff, but they need to start moderating the forum better. Seriously, no one puts their foot down here.

And you know the problem is bad when most of the older and mature members like Chubbo, Thwomp, and Spirit_of_Wind all agree 100% on it and even go out to say how BerryLerry is doing a terrible job moderating.

*ryoux posts*

Yea the kiddish nonsense on this forum has just gotten old and annoying. Like he said I don't wanna waste my energy when on a site managed horribly like this. TT was telling us on MPF how he won't go on this site because it's a joke basically. It's the good people like TT that are getting turned off by the site which this forum can't afford given it's current state.

Seriously, I can't enter those Mario Party boards without seeing loads of nonsense. I'd love to post in there but every post in there is ridiculous.
 
What a huge coincidence. Me and the admins are partly discussing about this, and we are considering of re-structuring here this coming weekend. I started this sort of discussion with the other admins last Saturday. We are going to change plenty of things, and most of the problems (including what you addressed, cookieboy17) will be fixed by Monday, May 10, 2010.
 
Snowy The Czar said:
I say, do a COMPLETE staff rehaul.

Take EVERYBODY off staff, and pick all new people.

I know I'd be a way better admin.
I think the G-Mods are alright and H-J is alright, not sure if Vip is cut to be an admin since he's on 24/7 but never moves topics, but I think he's doing an alright enough of a job to keep him there cause he's a more mature member (even given his autism).

@Vip that's great to here, hopefully some goods ideas come out of that meeting.
 
I dont think anything is going to change here. The site has had the same core problems since it was started over a year ago and none of those have been solved. It's been a spammy site since it was first created.

If SZ hasn't solved this by now I doubt this site will ever get to be a truly great site like an old-school MPF (which this site is based off of) or the new MPF.

If anyone wants a history of the forum and stuff just PM me, i've been around these parts for a while and used to be a mod back in the day. I got some good stories about mod-riggings and all kinds of crazy stuff!

@VIP so the topic at MPF got you guys to realize that this site has some serious issues?


Really SZ isn't cut out to be an admin, i've always liked him as a member but maybe he should have someone else do the admin structurework for him. Someone who has proven his worth on other successful forums.
 
Vipsoccermaster said:
What a huge coincidence. Me and the admins are partly discussing about this, and we are considering of re-structuring here this coming weekend. I started this sort of discussion with the other admins last Saturday. We are going to change plenty of things, and most of the problems (including what you addressed, cookieboy17) will be fixed by Monday, May 10, 2010.

Why do i have a bad feeling about that...  :( well at least they're gonna try..
 
Chubbo1793 said:
Snowy The Czar said:
I say, do a COMPLETE staff rehaul.

Take EVERYBODY off staff, and pick all new people.

I know I'd be a way better admin.
Well, SZ has the right to stay admin for the site since he made it, but we should try having a weekly or monthy mod evaluation to check and see if they're doing their job, if not, replace them.
The video game lodge is like a monthly competiton. Like Aegis started from the video game lodge and since he did a good job he was promoted and is doing a good job. I like the idea of picking a member who is not a moderator as mod (or 2 mods to co-mod) of the VG lodge for a few months until the staff is in a good stable position.
 
Ryoux0 said:
Vipsoccermaster said:
What a huge coincidence. Me and the admins are partly discussing about this, and we are considering of re-structuring here this coming weekend. I started this sort of discussion with the other admins last Saturday. We are going to change plenty of things, and most of the problems (including what you addressed, cookieboy17) will be fixed by Monday, May 10, 2010.
Why do i have a bad feeling about that...  :( well at least they're gonna try..

They've been "trying" to fix the forum for a while now. It hasnt happened before so I doubt it will now; history repeats itself
 
@TT about SZ Yea I agree in the idea that he should take more of a backseat role when it comes to some stuff like choosing the staff because he's made some horrible decisions, no beating around the bush about it. I like some of the stuff he's been doing to make the forum feel like a Mario Party forum but he should work on the site more and let the members run the forum more, that'll be a win win. Just make H-J and Vip full administrators and see if they do a good job.
 
I don't really know what they can do. I've helped successfully revamp forums and sites before but I think this site is kind of screwed; I'm really surprised it still has members seeing how bad this forum is and how long its been this bad.

I guess since the death of the old MPF people need a Mario party forum so they are stuck in this crappy forum.

Not trying to hate just telling the truth... the site sucks. Thats the general consensus of most of the mature members here.
 
ttwashere said:
I don't really know what they can do. I've helped successfully revamp forums and sites before but I think this site is kind of screwed; I'm really surprised it still has members seeing how bad this forum is and how long its been this bad.

I guess since the death of the old MPF people need a Mario party forum so they are stuck in this crappy forum.

Not trying to hate just telling the truth... the site sucks. Thats the general consensus of most of the mature members here.
It's worth trying for them at least, just cause. It's not like this site is gonna shut down, it's still got a long future so they might as well try to make it a better one than the one they're headin into now.
 
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