Thoughts anyone? I fell into the category of they're both terrible candidates so I don't care who wins.
U.S. 2016 Election
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First of all, "they're."GrandStarGalaxy said:
Second of all, yeah, this has always been about picking the "lesser of two evils." If Trump doesn't do anything to help us, then we'll vote him out in 2020, simple. I hope during that election some good people are picked...
Hope you Americans like fascism.
Welp.
Just in the day Trump won, the Mexican currency plunged 12%, a new record in a sigle day. (From ~18MXN-1Dll to ~20MXN-1Dll)
Well, these next 4 years wull be fun...
Just in the day Trump won, the Mexican currency plunged 12%, a new record in a sigle day. (From ~18MXN-1Dll to ~20MXN-1Dll)
Well, these next 4 years wull be fun...
This is going to be a doozy
Zympherior said:
Because they are still taking his "build the wall" statements seriously and he wants to bring in more domestic jobs with companies that have otherwise abandoned America in favor of places like Mexico and China. The DOW is stabilizing, this happens every presidential election.
Kaede said:
Jobs that are going to be prime candidates for automation in the next decade.
Trump's a scammer. What makes this whole fiasco worse is that Congress is currently controlled by the Republicans. We're fucked.
Strychnine said:
and soon the supreme court too
All the Democrats can hope to do and weasel their way through is by filibuster, which the Republicans will probably hear none of it.MattC said:
Can you guys give me one good example on why we are fucked? He hasn't done anything yet and people are taking to the streets saying that he's going to be a Nazi who rounds up trannies and shoots them in the streets. Like don't you think that's a bit of an exaggeration? The Clinton camp and SJWs of the world love to tout about "love, peace, and harmony" like a damn MLP episode yet they are blaming white people for Trump's election and calling for them to be shot. Both sides have their wackos, but damn the salt from the liberals is pretty scary and if anybody is going to start a civil war it's those guys.
Jobs that require automation do need people to run them, you know. Just in the past year alone, major companies like Caterpillar and Carrier moved to Mexico and China because they were getting tired of the taxation they were faced when trying to import shit from other countries. We need to have resources here domestically and we have to stop beating around the bush with our "allies" when it comes to international trade agreements. I'm not saying that keeping companies here in America will solve the unemployment issue, but it will certainly help.
The only people crying about Trump are the ones who think he hates LGBTQ and black people. In reality they are just salty whiners. I will change my opinion when he passes an anti-gay law, but for now he's our President and we need to give him a chance.
MattC said:
Jobs that require automation do need people to run them, you know. Just in the past year alone, major companies like Caterpillar and Carrier moved to Mexico and China because they were getting tired of the taxation they were faced when trying to import shit from other countries. We need to have resources here domestically and we have to stop beating around the bush with our "allies" when it comes to international trade agreements. I'm not saying that keeping companies here in America will solve the unemployment issue, but it will certainly help.
The only people crying about Trump are the ones who think he hates LGBTQ and black people. In reality they are just salty whiners. I will change my opinion when he passes an anti-gay law, but for now he's our President and we need to give him a chance.
Kaede said:
Trump called climate change 'a hoax', wants to remove environmental regulations and has appointed a climate change skeptic to lead the EPA transition. Climate change is the biggest problem the entire world as a whole is currently facing, and having the leader of the most powerful nation on the planet deny it is extremely troubling. Above anything else this is the reason to be against him.
Kaede said:
It's definitely an exaggeration, but he does have a lot of characteristics that can be associated with fascism.
Kaede said:
These people are obviously irrational and don't speak for the overall majority of those to do not like Trump.
Kaede said:
Trump was complaining that the election was going to be rigged and several of his supporters, again likely a small minority, were threatening to take up arms if he were to lose the election.
However, he did win the election yet lost the popular vote (not by much granted). You shouldn't be surprised that people are upset about the most unqualified and one of the most disliked and polarizing people to run for president was voted in, yet didn't win a majority of the vote. Quite frankly I wouldn't be surprised if Trump supporters were equally as upset if the same scenario happened with Clinton winning. If anything it's a failure of the Electoral College.
Protesting in the US Constitution via peaceful assembly, but once people start throwing rocks through windows then the police should intervene. I just hope all the people taking the time to protest took the time to vote.
One man can run dozens of machines, which have already replaced the dozens of jobs. Manufacturing isn't coming back to the Rust Belt.Kaede said:
Kaede said:
Caterpillar cut jobs because the workers wanted health care plans and fair wages. Carrier cut jobs because "it was strictly a business decision". You can scrap NAFTA and force these companies back into the country but they will find another way to screw over the workers. Ergo, automation.
Kaede said:
I'm not an expert on international trade but I'll give it a shot: Sure, but the United States kind of needs a sphere of influence. You hassle our "allies" over trading and they'll likely turn elsewhere to do business. Globalization isn't perfect (it does benefit the wealthy and hinder the poorer in developed nations) but it helps a lot of countries out of deep poverty. Perhaps this would be a good time to look at the United States' economic structure and rebalance it, rather than trying to bring that jobs that are quickly becoming outdated?
Kaede said:
The vice president elect is very anti LGBTQ and Trump went through hell and back to get the five teenagers wrongfully accused of rape executed. He has done nothing to put these accusations to rest.
Kaede said:
Just like how conservatives gave Obama a chance? He has full control of the United States government and has a ton of corrupt GOP stooges in his ear. He has a SCOTUS opening waiting to be filled by someone who'll more likely than not fall on the side of reversing Roe v. Wade and possibly Obergefell v. Hodges. You can write his detractors off as "wacko SJWs" and blame the media but his campaign rhetoric should have a lot of weight on how he will govern and it scares a lot of people.
He named Reince Priebus, the current head of the RNC, his Chief of Staff and Steve Bannon, a white supremacist and antisemite as his Chief Strategist.
Whatever chance he had, he just lost it.
Whatever chance he had, he just lost it.
it makes me want to move to canada!
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?Kaede said:
He's Aegis by the way.ttwashere said:
Controversial time. But I thought I would give my cents on some of the bigger points. Feel free to disagree. Free thought is what keeps the world ticking, after-all.
"In my opinion, Steve Bannon is a bully, and has sold out Andrew’s mission in order to back another bully, Donald Trump; he has shaped the company into Trump’s personal Pravda…the facts are undeniable".
So opinions are fact now? The rest of the article is either false, exaggerated, meaningless, or biased to the point of losing all credibility. I can dissect the article if you want but I'd rather not. Terrible article. I noticed the article also deemed Milo Y. a white supremacist. It's only fair for the man himself to defend himself:
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As an added note, Brietbart is a company formed by Jews. A racist Jew is like an unintelligent 8B1T, VIP with no money, or a gay Muslim. Completely incompatible.
The concept of climate change coming into the light came by challenging the narrative that there wasn't a climate change. It is now mainstream. Now people say it may be fake and suddenly challenging the narrative is condemable? Science adapts. Science gets a lot right. Science gets a lot wrong. But we must always look at it critically and consider sources put out by BOTH left wing and right wing.
I don't neccessarily believe the video below, but it's important to consider that there are alternate voices. Voices which are also backed by evidence, though months of testing will be required to see if the man's claims are legitimate.
Yet specific Hillary supporters claimed the election was rigged AFTER his win. They didn't speak up when they thought she would win!
As a result of multiculturalism we now have islamist-only zones in Europe and the situation is only getting worse. Some cultures assimilate. Others don't. It's important to be able to criticise all cultures individually rather than lump them into the same 'Equality' sentiment. As an example, there's a reason why nobody has a problem with Asians and their peaceful traditions compared to Islam where we have almost become conditioned to think Islamic terrorism is so normal that it's not worthy of news reporting anymore (which it most certainly is). It's incredibly upsetting to me the path we are being led down. Fortunately some of us are waking up in the form of Brexit and Italian Exit. Others not so much (Rip Austria and Sweden.).[/list]
But I thought I would give my cents on some of the bigger points. Feel free to disagree. Free thought is what keeps the world ticking, after-all.One point I rarely see mentioned is that Trump has been a celebrity his entire career. If you are a radical right-winger and a celebrity people become disinterested in you and you lose relevancy fast. And Trump has maintained a steady fan-base throughout his career. Strange that Trump was only labelled a fascist Nazi after he ran for president, huh.MattC said:
The only scammer in this entire election is Jill Stein that prayed upon the fears of liberals hoping for a tiny possibility of a recount. In reality, she knew the recount wouldn't go through, purposely waited for the deadline to pass in certain states, and made 7 million off of it. Not bad for a months work.Strychnine said:
I read both articles in this quote (Rip me). Both are biased but that "white supremacist" article is the worst thing I've ever read. It is an SJW reporter using a personal vendetta to taint the name of an innocent man. It's disgusting. I know nothing of Steve Bannon, but nothing in the article is evidence-based and everything is as extremely biased as you can get. Text book definition of how NOT to report. (Reporting should always attempt to remain as unbiased as possible by using facts and statistics or multiple credible witness statements) To take a direct quote:MattC said:
"In my opinion, Steve Bannon is a bully, and has sold out Andrew’s mission in order to back another bully, Donald Trump; he has shaped the company into Trump’s personal Pravda…the facts are undeniable".
So opinions are fact now? The rest of the article is either false, exaggerated, meaningless, or biased to the point of losing all credibility. I can dissect the article if you want but I'd rather not. Terrible article. I noticed the article also deemed Milo Y. a white supremacist. It's only fair for the man himself to defend himself:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTxSAjXpnqo
As an added note, Brietbart is a company formed by Jews. A racist Jew is like an unintelligent 8B1T, VIP with no money, or a gay Muslim. Completely incompatible.
A country more white than America. No surprise there.stone_cold_julia said:
While I don't reject the possibility of there being a climate change, I despite that you're acting like we can't even question it. Some of the best ideas in the world that are now accepted as mainsteam today came by challenging the narrative. If people become too scared to challenge the narrative nothing ever changes and increases the likelihood of wrong ideas remaining mainstream for decades to come.
The concept of climate change coming into the light came by challenging the narrative that there wasn't a climate change. It is now mainstream. Now people say it may be fake and suddenly challenging the narrative is condemable? Science adapts. Science gets a lot right. Science gets a lot wrong. But we must always look at it critically and consider sources put out by BOTH left wing and right wing.
I don't neccessarily believe the video below, but it's important to consider that there are alternate voices. Voices which are also backed by evidence, though months of testing will be required to see if the man's claims are legitimate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLuBgZ1bgoY
Considering that the entire media was pro-hillary, censored any Trump view that did not fit their narrative, bussed around liberals to vote in multiple states for Hillary, encouraged illegals to vote (which also pushed Hillary into winning the popular vote, otherwise it's more than likely she would have lost that too), and video footage of machines changing votes to Hillary if the person clicked Trump (a minority of cases, but still). The reason he won was because his victory was essentially a landslide in the rural regions.
Yet specific Hillary supporters claimed the election was rigged AFTER his win. They didn't speak up when they thought she would win!
One of the only legitimate "anti-lgbt" claims from the left and it's regarding Mike Pence. Funny how easy it is to back up claims when there is real evidence rather than emotional-based automatic responses that the left usually resorts to. Regarding the other article, yes he should drop that but there is no evidence Trump wants them sent down because of their race.
Take it from a European that is deeply concerned that the left-wing government is doing everything it can do eradicate our culture and traditions. Yes, it may be for the best. I read an article a year ago about a muslim calling the police on a british man that had the gall to wear a BRITISH FLAG as a shirt. I know, terrible right? Understandably, the man was met with unanimous praise in the comments section when he said he wasn't fased and was going to continue flaunting our flag regardless.
As a result of multiculturalism we now have islamist-only zones in Europe and the situation is only getting worse. Some cultures assimilate. Others don't. It's important to be able to criticise all cultures individually rather than lump them into the same 'Equality' sentiment. As an example, there's a reason why nobody has a problem with Asians and their peaceful traditions compared to Islam where we have almost become conditioned to think Islamic terrorism is so normal that it's not worthy of news reporting anymore (which it most certainly is). It's incredibly upsetting to me the path we are being led down. Fortunately some of us are waking up in the form of Brexit and Italian Exit. Others not so much (Rip Austria and Sweden.).[/list]
ttwashere said:
23! Why does it matter how old I am? I am a taxpayer, I respect my country, and I believe Trump is the change we need to get out of a stagnant economy and divided nation. It's only the SJWs that are preventing these things from happening because "safe space".
Saying that a Jew cannot be racist might be the funniest thing I've ever read. Thank you Toblet. Also Muslims can be gay lmao. What planet are you even from?