Smash Datamining Reveals DLC/Update Information

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C-Could it be…?!

 


 

Poor Sakurai can’t catch a break it seems these days. An accidental early update of the Japanese version of Smash Wii U has let dataminers to discover a plethora of interesting information, most specifically confirming the earlier accidental files pointing to Ryu, the World Warrior from the Street Fighter series, and Roy, the Pheraen Lord and protagonist of FE6, The Binding Blade. Check out all the details found thus far! This page should now be updated with most of the pertinent findings, which have been essentially confirmed in the Direct. Despite the leak, this is still impressive work by Sakurai and the team! So… Much… DLC…

 


 

CHARACTERS

 

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Roy’s design apparently is based on a hybrid design of his original/Melee and FE Awakening designs, which a concept was sent in by some people on SmashBoards if this post is to be believed. Also, here’s a reference image for what elements come from what design.

 

Roy’s alternate costumes. Many of them pay homage to characters in FE6.

 

Roy’s special moves. These aren’t really that different from their Melee counterparts – Flare Blade still OHKOs at full charge, dealing 50% damage and inflicting 10% self-damage. Counter’s a bit weaker, with a damage multiplier of 1.35x. *Note* – none of the new characters get custom special moves.

 

Roy appears to be more of a semi-clone now. A few changes from Melee are as follows:

  • Roy’s idle pose is different.
  • Roy holds the Sword of Seals backhanded for some attacks.
  • Roy’s jab is a single strong hit.
  • It’s possible that Roy’s hilt sweetspot is larger, and the only time you hit with the sourspot is right at the tip of the Sword of Seals.
  • Roy’s forward smash appears similar to Link’s first strike of his forward smash. Its uncharged sweetspot deals an impressive 20% damage.
  • Roy inherits an Ike/Robin-like down aerial.
  • Roy’s down throw deals little knockback at low enemy percentage.
  • Supposedly Roy flows quicker with regard to aerial moves and possibly speed as well, which is a reversal to in Melee. He still falls faster.
  • While his Final Smash is still Critical Hit, it’s more resemblant of his actual Critical Hit animation in FE6. Which is AWESOME.

 

 

 

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Ryu’s design is pretty much from Street Fighter IV.

 

Ryu’s alternate costumes. These are all from his alternate colors in Super Street Fighter II.

 

A look at what Ryu brings to the table. Ryu has since been discovered to be a super technical character, with the following character traits:

  • Ryu’s normal moves have two levels of power depending on whether you tap or hold A.
  • Ryu is able to cancel some of his normals into special moves, which is true to his home game.
  • Ryu is able to perform his neutral/side/up specials with the CLASSIC inputs form the Street Fighter series. By doing so, they become more powerful, and the voice clips will be different. Moves will also appear somewhat differently.
  • The Hadoken is the neutral special move. Hold the button to increase its speed (akin to differences between punch strengths in Street Fighter). Its classic input (QCF + A, i.e. down, down forward, forward + A) will increase its damage by 1.25x.
  • Ryu is also able to perform the Shakunetsu Hadoken, a flaming Hadoken that hits multiple times and deals around 8% damage. Its input is the original input from Super Street Fighter II Turbo; i.e. HCF + A (back, down back, down, down forward, forward + A).
  • The Tatsumaki Senpukyaku is the side special move. Performed after a jump, Ryu will float slightly, making it a good recovery. However, it can’t be used repeatedly in midair.
  • Performing the original input (QCB + A i.e. down, down back, back + A) increases its strength by 1.16x and also speeds up the attack and makes it travel further.
  • The Shoryuken, the archetypal uppercut special, is Ryu’s up special move. It’s not the best recovery (I’ve heard it being around between the recovery of Little Mac and Dr. Mario, which isn’t great), but it is quite a decent attack in its own right.
  • Input the original input (DP + A, i.e. forward, down, down forward + A) to increase its power by 1.2x, and make the move invincible until the uppercut finishes and Ryu begins to freefall. In addition Shoryuken has no landing lag. Talk about crazy!
  • The Focus Attack is the down special move. Originating from Street Fighter IV, this move allows Ryu to charge an attack momentarily, and have super armor against one (and only ONE) attack, before unleashing an attack which can crumple a grounded opponent if fully charged. Also true to its home game, it’s possible to dash cancel out of the Focus Attack.
  • Particularly interesting is Ryu gets TWO Final Smashes, which are activated differently depending on how far Ryu is from the opponent. Up close, Ryu unleashes the Shin Shoryuken, a double uppercut combo that launches not too dissimilar to Little Mac’s K.O. Uppercut. From further away, Ryu fires a Shinku Hadoken, a multi-hitting Hadoken that catches opponents as it pushes them off stage.

 

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Ryu’s series emblem, which 8B1T would’ve expected to appear like this.

 


 

STAGES

 

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Ryu’s stage from Street Fighter II, now confirmed to be called Suzaku Castle, is a new stage. Pity the walkoff on the right. It’s got a pretty awesome Omega form though. The signs on the rooftop break if struck by foes or attacks too hard, but they’ll repair themselves.

 

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Miiverse stage. Whenever you knock out an opponent, you get a message of encouragement. Meteor smashing them gives you two! Note that sometimes your opponent will get a message of encouragement as they revive.

 

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Dream Land 64, which is probably going to be in both versions. King Dedede appears in the background like when it first appeared in Smash 64 – if he’s not already in the battle.

 


 

TROPHIES

 

So pretty! This proves Lucas has PK Starstorm, which is just like Ness’s. Also, check out Ken Masters and Inkling Girl.

 


 

MII COSTUMES

 

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The Isabelle costume (for Gunner!) appears to be the female version of the K.K. Slider one. And that other one is Mega Man .EXE.

 

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What are you fighting for, Swordfighter?!

 

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Brawler gets some love from other classic fighters. Heihachi from Virtua Fighter (with a female variant!), Akira (the pixelated version!) and Jacky Bryant from the Virtua Fighter series.

 


 

OTHER RESOURCES

 

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Victory movies. D-Did Roy just roast Falco so well done, the space ace turned into ROAST CHICKEN?! Lucas’s ending frame is kinda touching for those who know the story.

 

Lucas’s Announcer Call
Roy’s Announcer Call
Ryu’s Announcer Call
Kirby saying “PK Freeze!”
Kirby saying “Hadoken!”
Lucas’s Crowd Chant
Roy’s Crowd Chant
Ryu’s Crowd Chant

Have some audio. This confirms that Hadoken is Ryu’s neutral B, at least. Note how different ROY sounds to the existing ROY. =P

 

Clear images you get when you finish the Classic and All-Star modes. Some are quite playful, as is the spirit of the Clear Images.

 

Stock icons. They’re… beautiful.

 

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Watch this before it gets taken down. The characters aren’t being played legitimately since Mario is being used as a pointer and the character files are substituted, lol

 

Kirby’s transformations! Woo! Excuse the missing textures.

 

The new characters’ Boxing Ring titles:

Lucas: Boy from Nowhere
Ryu: Tireless Wanderer
Roy: The Young Lion

 

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Loads and loads and loads of new music! (The retro versions of Ryu and Ken themes also have sped up higher pitch ‘Pinch’ variations, which usually play when you’re low in health in a round of Street Fighter.) Yes, that’s Rhythm Heaven music you see there!

 
 

Big thanks to Random Talking Bush, his twitter replies, VGResource and the crew over at Source Gaming for a load of amazing information. Also anyone who uploaded vids, such as Crediar’s twitch who originally uploaded the gameplay vid.


 

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Rayree
Rayree
June 13, 2015 11:10 AM

I’m loving Roy’s new look for this smash. My cousin is going to be especially excited (because Roy was her main in Melee, and Lucina isn’t satisfying enough for her). But Ryu, hm… I’m cool with him in it, but that’s about it.

AD
AD
June 13, 2015 1:07 PM
Reply to  Rayree

I don’t care if I’m bad at him, I’m going to main Roy!

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 13, 2015 12:12 PM

http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/0/02/DreamLandSSB.png
http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/2/25/SSB4UDreamLand64.png
Comparison Dream Land in Smash 64 and in Smash Wii U.
There are some major, but not so different changes in the background:
The pink flowers on the 2 small trees look more realistic, the 2 water ponds strangely look more realistic in the N64 version than on the Wii U version, the islands in the background look less detailed in the Wii U version and the stage seems to have been shortened, because now we can’t see the the entire tree and ground.

MagiKooper
MagiKooper
June 13, 2015 1:42 PM

Wait are sure that’s the WiiU version, it’s like it would be more for 3DS.

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 13, 2015 3:04 PM
Reply to  MagiKooper

Yes I am. It says so everywhere and even on this article, and it says so in Smash Wiki as well. Also you can clearly see in this picture that this is the Wii U graphics and not the 3DS graphics.

8B1T
8B1T
June 13, 2015 5:36 PM

Also the 3DS version hasn’t received its update yet.

MagiKooper
MagiKooper
June 13, 2015 8:46 PM
Reply to  8B1T

Well that proves it.

Pikachu Trainer/Jigglypuff fan
June 13, 2015 1:50 PM

I wonder if dedede will be in the background still?

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 13, 2015 3:03 PM

Probably.

8B1T
8B1T
June 13, 2015 11:12 PM

Only if he’s not fighting.

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 7:00 AM
Reply to  8B1T

And what about Bronto Burt?

RafalRib
RafalRib
June 14, 2015 10:17 AM

He appeared on the presentation 😛

Sticks The Badger
Sticks The Badger
June 13, 2015 1:50 PM

Where’s the Illumanati triangle? And Why they took it away? T.T
Update: it’s still there LOL

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 6:31 AM

I also said that on my post. I prefer the background on the N64 version

J.C.
J.C.
June 13, 2015 3:51 PM

Yay! It’s back! Looks more polished on Wii U (obviously).

Mister Sushi
Mister Sushi
June 13, 2015 4:35 PM

It’s not shortened, it’s the resolution of the photo 😉

Spike "R" Jagger
Spike "R" Jagger
June 14, 2015 6:31 AM

Whipsy Woods looks thicker in the Wii U version.

8B1T
8B1T
June 13, 2015 5:45 PM

By the way, I’ll update this page with some more stuff including the ever helpful guys at SourceGaming.wordpress.com

8B1T
8B1T
June 13, 2015 11:11 PM
Reply to  8B1T

Aaaaand done.

Mister Sushi
Mister Sushi
June 13, 2015 8:36 PM

Guys I think I may have found the ultimate hype song (for hype in general not just nintendo): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS_a8Edde8k

EDIT: HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO INTENSE I CANNOT STOP LISTENING HELP!

Spiny Bro
Spiny Bro
June 13, 2015 9:08 PM
Reply to  Mister Sushi

Wow, it must be pretty good

RobinFTW
RobinFTW
June 14, 2015 4:51 AM

Wooooooow, I just saw all the new informations about Ryu :O. All these commands though… SO hyped to try him out 😀 Oh and thanks 8B1T for all this :D:D:D

8B1T
8B1T
June 14, 2015 9:12 AM
Reply to  RobinFTW

I updated the special inputs for Ryu’s specials, but now it seems EITHER A or B can be used with the classic inputs.
Rip me.

MarioMaster810
MarioMaster810
June 14, 2015 5:36 AM

With all of this content getting revealed to thousands of people, I wonder how Nintendo will actually handle it during the Smash presentation! XD

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 6:32 AM

1 hour!

ImpaDude
June 14, 2015 6:35 AM

Ehehehehehehehe I can’t wait!

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 6:36 AM

I’ll buy the 2 stages. Oh,l wish they came free and already unlocked like Miiverse!

Geoman
Geoman
June 14, 2015 6:53 AM

The gamexplain videos about this have been copyrighted. its not a joke go see for your self

Spiny Bro
Spiny Bro
June 14, 2015 7:18 AM

I love seeing this, we can vote for anyone!

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 7:21 AM
Reply to  Spiny Bro

Doesn’t mean that this character will necessarily be added. You already posted that.

Spiny Bro
Spiny Bro
June 14, 2015 7:23 AM

1 yes it does, the winner eill be added
2. This is another one

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 7:24 AM
Reply to  Spiny Bro

I mean, if you simply vote for a character, it won’t be added. Ot has to be a famous voting.
And these are suggestions, if Shrek wins for example, it doesn’t mean they’ll add him.

Spiny Bro
Spiny Bro
June 14, 2015 7:27 AM

Of course not shrek, he is troll vote.

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 7:27 AM
Reply to  Spiny Bro

Well, you said that the winner will be added. I said no, but you said yes. Based on your logic, if Spongebob or Shrek wins, he’ll be added.

Spiny Bro
Spiny Bro
June 14, 2015 7:29 AM

Well, lets put it except 4th parties

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 7:23 AM

When they said they would talk about the lnkling costumes l thought they would confirm them, but seing this l guess they’ll actually say the female one will only be a trophy or say “wait, there are more Mii costumes!” And show these update costumes.
A shame tho, they’d be unique like Ryu.

MagiKooper
MagiKooper
June 14, 2015 7:25 AM
Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 7:31 AM
Reply to  MagiKooper

l can’t, Youtube stopped working in my computer 🙁
I’ll have to wait for you guys to tell me the news here after the Direct, because now my computer works only on these sites:
Mario Party Legacy, Mario Wiki and Smash Wiki.

ImpaDude
June 14, 2015 8:01 AM

ryu, roy, and lucas with all of the stages and all are released today

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 8:04 AM
Reply to  ImpaDude

I’ll buy the Inkling costumes and Dream Land.
Also, I can’t wait for Hryule Castle and Peach Castle to release!

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 7:47 AM

Aaahh! N64 Peach’s Castle and N64 Hyrule Castle on SSBU!

8B1T
8B1T
June 14, 2015 9:11 AM

Still wanting Melee Fountain of Dreams here ;_;

Rosie (E3 hyper)
Rosie (E3 hyper)
June 14, 2015 9:20 AM
Reply to  8B1T

Me too, I’d prefer it over Dream Land.

Luigiguy567
Luigiguy567
June 14, 2015 9:27 AM

Ryu: Hey Sakurai! Can I be in Smash?
Sakurai: SUREYOUCAN!

8B1T
8B1T
June 14, 2015 9:31 AM
Reply to  Luigiguy567

Ironically, the SURE YOU CAN makes its way into one of the tips for the Shoryuken.

Mister Sushi
Mister Sushi
June 14, 2015 7:40 PM
Reply to  Luigiguy567

AHAHAHAHAHA IM DYING

RafalRib
RafalRib
June 15, 2015 4:42 AM

Heihachi is from Tekken not Virtua Fighter 😛

You’re welcome Zambezi