Treese On Games: Smash 3DS Thoughts & More!

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Super Mario Land was directed by Satoru Okada.

Treese On Games is a Sunday column where Tyler Treese takes a look back at all of the week’s gaming news and gives his thoughts.

Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS is finally out and having played it for several hours I have some early impressions to share. The first thing that really stood out for me (other than that the user interface is poorly designed) was that the core gameplay was still a blast. Smash Bros. still plays like Smash Bros. for better or for worst. There are not a ton of changes so those that do not like the series won’t have their minds changed but the game offers a ton of fun to the fans it already has.

Other than that not much of the game has really stood out to me so far. That said I am having fun and I love the character roster. My early favorites to play as have to be Duck Hunt and Pac-Man. Both are super unique characters and Pac-Man has the best final smash in the entire series. I’m sure i’ll have more thoughts in upcoming installments as I spend more time with the game so be on the look-out for that.

  • Smash Run is horrible. I just can’t believe that a mode devoid of fun has gotten such a push from Nintendo to not only have it as a selling point on the back of the box but also prominently featured on the main menu. While the idea itself is sound the execution is flawed. The lack of strategy during the run is baffling and the time it takes to get into the actual match is far too long. If you are enjoying this mode I would love to know why in the comments.
  • Satoru Okada has retired from Nintendo. Okada, who directed several games such as Metroid, Kid Icarus and Super Mario Land, later became the General Manager of Nintendo’s Research and Engineering department. There he would be the chief developer on multiple handhelds including the Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance and Nintendo DS. I would like to thank Okada for all of his work and I hope he enjoys his retirement. Thanks for the great memories.
  • In a bit of bad yet not surprising news it looks like Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker might be delayed in North America as well. Gamefly has updated its page for the title now giving a date of March 31st, 2015. While this isn’t a confirmation, it can’t be good news for fans hoping to play Captain Toad’s latest adventure later this year.
  • Since everybody is busy playing Smash Bros. (myself included) I pushed back this week’s Legacy Lookback. Since it is a week behind i’ll give you a hint on what it will be about. It will focus on a Game Boy launch title. Also since I spent so much time play Smash Bros. I didn’t have a chance to jump into Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga but we’ll get back into that next week as well.
  • As promised i’ll give out my 3DS information so we can finally settle it in Smash whether or not Waluigi is the greatest Mario character. My friend code is 3566-1540-5299. After you have added me leave a comment below with your friend code so I can add you! I’ll set aside time Tuesday night to play Smash Bros. with anyone from 8-10pm EST. Hopefully we’ll battle soon!

Thanks for reading and I hope to get your thoughts in the comments below!

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Nookling
Nookling
October 5, 2014 12:26 PM

I too am shocked at how bad Smash Run is after how much Nintendo has been pushing it. I think the ideas are good and the concept is cool, it is just badly executed. I think that the final battle should be longer first of all. Secondly, the entire thing is just so random. Where you start on the map, the enemies you encounter, the power ups you get, and the type of final battle is random. How can you control it at all? I have only played one round so far. I have spent most of my time playing… Read more »

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 12:28 PM
Reply to  Nookling

Yup, its not like you can go in and have a strategy. You can’t try to get like all speed pick-ups because all the drops are random. Its a lot of not very fun build-up for a lackluster final battle.

I’ll play more of it due to the Challenges but other than that I won’t touch it.

MrSquigglet1
MrSquigglet1
October 5, 2014 12:40 PM

What does everyone have against Smash Run? I think it’s really fun!

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 12:45 PM
Reply to  MrSquigglet1

Glad you enjoy it. Thanks for reading.

LudwigVonKoopa7777
LudwigVonKoopa7777
October 5, 2014 12:57 PM

I agree very much with this article. I didn’t find Smash Run to be enjoyable either. I was hyped up for it and now am highly disappointed. At least it the game runs well, which was something I was concerned about.

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 12:59 PM

If you wish to give out your friend code please reply to this comment so I get a notification. Thanks.

Charles Sims
Charles Sims
October 5, 2014 8:40 PM
Reply to  Tyler Treese

Enter my Nintendo 3DS Friend Code as 2938-6688-6641. Add me as a friend. My name is Charles582.

DiddyKongDerp
October 5, 2014 1:00 PM

I find Smash run fun, but I kind of wish it would be similar to the story mode for brawl, but only with Upgrades.

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 1:01 PM
Reply to  DiddyKongDerp

Hopefully the Wii U version will have something like that. Hate to see all the enemies they designed for Smash Run go to waste.

Boo3DSmashBoo
Boo3DSmashBoo
October 5, 2014 1:11 PM

I’ve nothing more to say here besides thanks to Mr. Okada (by the way, you wrote Owada in the first line). I heard somewhere that if Retro Studios want to work in Metroid again, they have all chances in the world, for the ones that don’t know who’s Retro Studios, they’re the creators of all Metroid Prime games and latest Donkey Kong Country games (Returns and Tropical Freeze).

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 1:15 PM
Reply to  Boo3DSmashBoo

Thanks for catching that typo. Fixed.

Boo3DSmashBoo
Boo3DSmashBoo
October 5, 2014 1:17 PM
Reply to  Tyler Treese

You’re welcome. 🙂

RafalRib
RafalRib
October 5, 2014 1:35 PM

1- Actually i like Smash Run! But Nintendo could have more diversity on the enemies *Cough* Kid Icarus *Cough* and if it had online it you sellmuch more (because there are certain people that didnt buy the game because of Smash Run not being online!)
2- Have a good retirement Mr.Okada!
3- Well i’m in europe so 😛
4- Smash Bros can always fit in our daily lives! 🙂
5- SETTLE IT IN SMASH!

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 1:59 PM
Reply to  RafalRib

I don’t think Smash Run not being online will affect sales all that much. Kind of a weird reason not to buy it.

RafalRib
RafalRib
October 6, 2014 10:39 AM
Reply to  Tyler Treese

I know right? But there are some people…..

Sup
Sup
October 5, 2014 2:00 PM

This might sound a little off, but I think Smash 3DS is a Brawl port. The game has great stages and great characters, but they overused Brawl’s stuff. However, I will pick it up in the future. Well, many people do retire when they are in their late 60’s or early 70s, so I thank him for working hard on GB, GBC, GBA and DS games. I hope he enjoys his retirement. I don’t trust GF because they said Mario Golf: World Tour was releasing in Late Auguest(I can’t remember the date, but they gave a date) and the game… Read more »

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 2:14 PM
Reply to  Sup

I think I watched the GameXplain video. I watched whatever video was linked in the comments here last week.

Mister Sushi
Mister Sushi
October 5, 2014 2:50 PM
Reply to  Sup

So you haven’t played it, but you say it’s a brawl port. UNFAIR.

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 4:04 PM
Reply to  Mister Sushi

I wouldn’t call it a Brawl port because I feel like Brawl had more interesting modes 😛

Sup
Sup
October 5, 2014 4:10 PM
Reply to  Tyler Treese

Brawl is better honestly.

Mister Sushi
Mister Sushi
October 5, 2014 8:30 PM
Reply to  Tyler Treese

I agree, but Smash Run is REALLY addictive.

8B1T
8B1T
October 5, 2014 4:18 PM
Reply to  Sup

Wow I don’t understand some of the abbreviations here. O.o
I wouldn’t call the game a port if it is changed in any form. To me, a port is like a Virtual Console game.

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 4:33 PM
Reply to  8B1T

Its certainly not a part. There are drastic differences.

Braystar
Braystar
October 5, 2014 3:07 PM

Smash Run is a great mode, it just takes skill (which I don’t have)

Vipsoccermaster
Vipsoccermaster
October 5, 2014 4:22 PM

Sup, please don’t post leaks or spoilers here. Go to the Spoilers or Leaks pages for that. That’s why your comments were deleted.

Sup
Sup
October 5, 2014 4:23 PM

I apologize.

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 4:34 PM

Game is out. Embargo for reviews are out. Why are we being more strict than Nintendo themselves?

Vipsoccermaster
Vipsoccermaster
October 5, 2014 4:36 PM
Reply to  Tyler Treese

It was stuff related to the Wii U version, not the 3DS version.

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 4:36 PM

Ah. Makes sense.

gmanextreme9
gmanextreme9
October 5, 2014 4:34 PM

The main problem with this game, in my opinion, was that you could easily see the massive amounts of favoritism towards Kid Icarus. Seriously, Kid Icarus has the 3rd most trophies in the game from what I’ve seen. Also, I thought Smash Run was fun, but could have been a lot better with some tweaks.

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 4:34 PM
Reply to  gmanextreme9

I don’t really mind it that much. Uprising was a phenomenal game and to learn more about its world through the trophies is pretty rad.

8B1T
8B1T
October 5, 2014 4:46 PM
Reply to  gmanextreme9

KIU resources are also incredibly easy to recycle.

Psych
Psych
October 5, 2014 5:26 PM
Reply to  gmanextreme9

Maybe it’s my bias towards KI:U being my favorite game, but I really don’t mind.

Forge233
Forge233
October 5, 2014 6:06 PM
Reply to  gmanextreme9

I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s noticing all the KI stuff. I’ve never played Uprising but I kinda sucks when you see your favorite series get four trophies while KI gets like 20.

gmanextreme9
gmanextreme9
October 5, 2014 6:23 PM
Reply to  Forge233

Exactly my thoughts. I have nothing against Kid Icarus, but I just think Sakurai went a little crazy with it in Smash Run and the trophies.

Mother4Eternity
Mother4Eternity
October 5, 2014 5:04 PM

Tyler treese Do you want to battle me , I’m sorry I missed the community night by the way

Luigiguy567
Luigiguy567
October 5, 2014 5:57 PM

Can I battle with both of you right now? (If you have time, of course)

Mother4Eternity
Mother4Eternity
October 5, 2014 5:58 PM
Reply to  Luigiguy567

Sure luigiguy , I’ll make a room right now 🙂

Luigiguy567
Luigiguy567
October 5, 2014 6:00 PM

Is your Mii named David? (Just checking)

Mother4Eternity
Mother4Eternity
October 5, 2014 6:00 PM
Reply to  Luigiguy567

Yup that’s me

Luigiguy567
Luigiguy567
October 5, 2014 6:01 PM

Ok thanks 🙂

gmanextreme9
gmanextreme9
October 5, 2014 6:28 PM

Hey wondering if I could join in on this too? I could really go for some smashing right now.

Mother4Eternity
Mother4Eternity
October 5, 2014 7:22 PM
Reply to  gmanextreme9

Sure gman your welcome to join 🙂

gmanextreme9
gmanextreme9
October 5, 2014 7:34 PM

Thanks! You want me to create the room?

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 5, 2014 6:15 PM

I’ll battle any newcomer in the name of Waluigi!

Mother4Eternity
Mother4Eternity
October 5, 2014 6:19 PM
Reply to  Tyler Treese

So is that a yes 😐

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 6, 2014 10:30 AM

Yes.

Mother4Eternity
Mother4Eternity
October 6, 2014 10:35 AM
Reply to  Tyler Treese

Ok then when do you want to start , I get home at 2:50 so anytime above that is fine 🙂

Mother4Eternity
Mother4Eternity
October 6, 2014 2:41 PM
Reply to  Tyler Treese

Double T I’m ready to play sm4sh 😉

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 6, 2014 3:19 PM

Tuesday night like it says in the post above i’m setting aside 2 hours to play with all of you guys.

Really busy working on reviews/previews/videos/articles and playing other games right now! Can keep up to date with all the stuff i’m doing on twitter!

Luigiguy567
Luigiguy567
October 5, 2014 5:28 PM

1. Hi Five, Tyler! Smash Run sucks harder than a black hole! 2. It’s sad he retired. Thanks for the memories, Mr. Okada! 3. Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker never really rocked my world anyways. Sure, it looks cool, and I loved the levels in 3D World… but those levels weren’t very long in the first place (they lasted 3 minutes tops). Plus, a GameXplain Secret Analysis video hints Captain Toad may have around 20ish levels. I’m not too sure if I want to buy a $60 game that lasts less than two hours. 4. My 3DS friend code is 2363-5902-4250.… Read more »

Charles Sims
Charles Sims
October 5, 2014 8:32 PM
Reply to  Luigiguy567

Enter my Nintendo 3DS Friend Code as 2938-6688-6641. Add me as a friend. My name is Charles582.

Vipsoccermaster
Vipsoccermaster
October 5, 2014 8:33 PM
Reply to  Luigiguy567

Thing is, most retailers are predicting Captain Toad will retail for $39.99, not $59.99.

8B1T
8B1T
October 5, 2014 9:13 PM
Reply to  Luigiguy567

For point 1, I’m going on a limb here and saying that character default stats are the white lines, so if you’re not getting powerups over the white line you’ll be weaker in certain areas of your character. (I don’t have the game right now so I can’t confirm this)

Luigiguy567
Luigiguy567
October 6, 2014 8:03 AM
Reply to  8B1T

That could be, but it’s too much of a hassle to gather them all in 5 minutes.

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 6, 2014 10:30 AM
Reply to  Luigiguy567

Will add you tonight!

MagiKooper
MagiKooper
October 6, 2014 2:02 PM
Reply to  Luigiguy567

Hey Luigiguy I never really got your FC. Could you add me?

Mine is 3007-9387-1439…Looking forward to smashing you. 😛

TwoDreamy Luigi
TwoDreamy Luigi
October 5, 2014 6:00 PM

Smash Run is ok for me. I like how 90% of the enemies are from Nintendo/3rd party series rather than out-of-nowhere. It can be a bit intricate when you want to collect custom moves, but it’s not the most replayable thing in Smash Bros. It’s more of a distraction than anything else. The randomness factor is hit-or-miss for some people. But like I said, it’s fairly decent, but it’s just a distraction.

Btw, here’s my Friend Code, Tyler Treese:

1160-9780-7789

Charles Sims
Charles Sims
October 5, 2014 8:37 PM

Enter my Nintendo 3DS Friend Code as 2938-6688-6641and my name is Charles582. Add me!

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 6, 2014 10:30 AM
Reply to  Charles Sims

I’ll make sure I add both of you guys!

Forge233
Forge233
October 5, 2014 6:04 PM

I love smash run!! I think the random last battle is a great move because its a chance for EVERYONE to be good at something!! I also think its pretty hilarious when I max out in a stat that becomes utterly useless like max speed in a survival match. xD

Geoman
Geoman
October 5, 2014 6:21 PM

I love smash run it is a good way to train your self with non fighter enemies from other games then test your self with the fighters and I am kind of hoping for a DLC and some of this is a SPOILER sorry for those who do not want to hear this so I won’t post that part here. The DLC should be 10 characters 10 stages and a new mode 10 characters. Krystal, Wolf, Magalor, Paper Mario, King K Rool, Dixie Kong, Ridley, Lucus, Mewtwo, ice climbers I am not going to repeat my self of what I… Read more »

Charles Sims
Charles Sims
October 5, 2014 8:35 PM

Enter my Nintendo 3DS Friend Code as 2938-6688-6641. and my name is Charles582. Please add me now.

Mario_Comix
Mario_Comix
October 5, 2014 10:37 PM

I like Smash Run because I find it fun to traverse the map and kill those enemies. It’s also cool being able to see all these enemies from different series interact with the characters of other series, unlike the SSE, although the gameplay hearkens back to it. It’s also fun to gain all those stats.

TheMarioMario64
TheMarioMario64
October 6, 2014 5:00 AM

I added you. My friend code is 5241-2423-1046.

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 6, 2014 10:31 AM

Thanks, i’ll add you as well! Looking forward to playing you!

TheMarioMario64
TheMarioMario64
October 6, 2014 3:05 PM
Reply to  Tyler Treese

Same here.

Sea Slug and Wagashi
Sea Slug and Wagashi
October 6, 2014 10:01 AM

I haven’t actually played the game yet, but through trailers and gameplay vids. I can pretty much tell I’ll hate Smash Run too. Heck, I was one of the few who didn’t like the concept as soon as it was revealed. I feel like Sakurai is trying too hard to make SSB3DS original because he loves the 3DS console from his experience with KIU, even though it was clear from the start it that a handheld Smash would turn out to be more trouble than it’s worth. (IMO) Although I wasn’t too surprised, in all honesty. Sure Smash has had… Read more »

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 6, 2014 10:31 AM

Thank you for reading!

MagiKooper
MagiKooper
October 7, 2014 4:24 AM

Eh Smash Run isn’t that bad……though it can be extremely annoying……The fact that it’s local only makes it worse…..I hope, I really hope Sakurai or Nintendo can make an update so we can play it online.

Tyler Treese
Tyler Treese
October 7, 2014 11:56 AM

Alright I think I have everyone added. Looking forward to playing tonight, 8-10. If I missed you then comment on this and i’ll make sure I add you. Cheers!